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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 129 of 145 21 November 2014 at 12:27am | IP Logged | ||
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21/25 in my french grammar test (and I made really stupid errors) :)
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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 130 of 145 27 November 2014 at 10:21am | IP Logged | ||
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Due to unusual circumstances (more or less randomly), I started studying a new
language last week. This is when you're not the one who chooses the language, but the language that chooses him. I don't know whether I will be very serious with it or not, but I find it a nice way to spend some time doing something I don't have any pressure to do. I'm also very faithfully listening Spanish podcasts during all my movements (tram, train, flight, walking), daily (unless I share the travel with someone else). I'm listening the second gold season of Notes in Spanish, and after 4 podcast series I have to say that once I will have finished with it I will miss Ben Curtis's and Marina Diez's voices. I really enjoy to hear their stories. I actually think that I will send them an email to thank them :) My Dutch is suffering, but it is a period. I will come back to it. My Russian can't wait, but has to, for the moment . (why did I start another language instead of Russian then? Well, this is not a rational process. And Russian is a language that I wish to learn very well) Edited by tristano on 27 November 2014 at 10:51am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 131 of 145 28 November 2014 at 10:07am | IP Logged | ||
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When I first started to study Spanish I was concerned that I could have interferences
with French, instead, apart once said not "situation" but "situacion", for the rest, no interference at all. But I discovered that I have a big huge interference that I didn't expect at all. I'm losing the ability to speak my dialect (variation of milanese), that was already quite low before (A1 I would say, but with a good understanding). When I try to think in my dialect I find Spanish instead. Not a big deal, actually, but I found it curious :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 132 of 145 02 December 2014 at 5:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm enjoying to study my new language without any plan.
Meanwhile I'm looking conversation partners for Spanish and I'm mantaining some contact for Dutch. Even though I'm not studying Dutch actively in the last period the language is around me and the exposure allows me not to lose the (rusty and partial) command of the language. I think that my new approach consisting of not to set any goal but just continuing to work although could be less efficient, it releases me from frequent frustration. In the end I like to mess with languages, but I have no obligation to become a master. I will make a gift to myself and buy a Assimil Russian, probably the Italian version. On a side note, I think that I need to do more listening and reading in French, a little bit overlooked in favour of Spanish. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4183 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 133 of 145 03 December 2014 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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In a few months they should bring out also the perfectionment for Russian ,a book I will certainly want to
get my hands on , when I get back to Russian :-). By the way what is this mysterious new language ? Edited by albysky on 03 December 2014 at 5:04pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 134 of 145 03 December 2014 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Nice, nice.
It seems that I won't have any problems finding good material with Russian :) Oh, right, the mysterious new language is Lithuanian. I don't have any good reason to study it but it is rather fascinating, and there is very little suitable material in English. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Veel Tetraglot Newbie Norway Joined 4488 days ago 23 posts - 41 votes Speaks: Lithuanian*, Latvian, English, NorwegianC1 Studies: Greek, Estonian | Message 135 of 145 04 December 2014 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | ||
What a lovely choice! Have fun! I would be indeed pleased to help you somehow while stepping into uncharted territory of this "mysterious" language. I know it so well from my own experience how frustrating it is to delve seriously into "smaller" languages. What's your tactics with Lithuanian right now? What kind of resources do you have/use? The scarcity of available resources can indeed unpleasantly surprise and demotivate anyone. I somehow suspect the best way (unsurprisingly) to approach "tasting" Lithuanian would be from Italian point of view rather than English. No clue how good this webpage is, but maybe it could provide some useful insights into the grammar? http://lituania.italietuva.com/lingua/grammatica/ -- Next, if you don't mind my random sampling of various Lithuanian songs, you can start right away here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QikIyCXkBjI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTcDVX3oTg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDx67HiFYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpVoqaY058M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EdrOHl0290 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KAa_aLkGBg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaT_MbxnS28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUfA7nSydM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYJjXvJOjU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1L-eImMUtM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTtLRUPEZgo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydkC9UWp4g ; If anything catches your ear, I could absolutely help with writing out lyrics or translating some bits here and there, too. -- For some further encouragement, you might take a glimpse into an interview with this prominent professor of Baltic Studies, your fellow countryman P. U. Dini, speaking perfect Lithuanian. He tells how he first got interested in Lithuanian and the Baltic languages in general and then ended up specializing in the field. http://www.alchemija.tv/index.php/pasivaik-iojimai/pasivaiki ojimai-su-pietro-u.-dini/ Another funny thing, language learning frustration might lead into large-scale inventiveness. That's what seemingly happened to another Italian guy behind BliuBliu, Claudio, desperately trying to learn Lithuanian. -- Well, I don't know what works best and provides most fun for you, but as far as I'm concerned, bumping into some catching songs, interviews, etc., even without having a faintest clue as to what's happening at first, can sometimes get so addictive and incredibly boost motivation to proceed further on. Ok, if you've got any questions or are looking for something specific, just drop a line any time. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 3842 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 136 of 145 05 December 2014 at 12:32am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi @Veel! Thank you very much for your comment! A lot of input and encouraging content, thank you so much!
The music is very important to me, like for example how pleasant sounds the language to me. I like how Lithuanian sounds! Oh, I know about Claudio. I'm indeed relying on Bliu Bliu and Colloquial Lithuanian as resources. There is also Book2 that could be useful. Bliu Bliu is actually brilliant and it is a good help also with the other languages that I'm studying. My learning tactic? Well, I have no deadline with this language. I'm going ahead steady and relaxed. Before to do a new 'general' lesson in Bliu Bliu, I put the words in memrise, so when I read with Bliu Bliu I have fresh in mind what the words should mean and I can read them in context. 20 minutes per day! With Colloquial, I'm cutting the audio to repeat the dialogue two times, then I study the dialogue the same way I do it with Assimil. I would maybe reach the end of the book and then restarting it to learn the grammar. Of course this whole thing is an experiment. I'm definitely going to have a look of your links! I will post about it here. Thanks again! -- About French, today I did the oral production test. I'm talkative and even if my grammar could be better, I feel to be a solid B1 now. I feel I can go and work in France if I want, with just some difficulty in the beginning. I guess I can move the language from 'Study' to 'Speak', but I will wait at least to receive the result of my tests before :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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