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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6236 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 33 of 191 04 July 2007 at 9:48am | IP Logged | |||||
Esperanto has more than a century of history, and hundreds of thousands to a couple of million fluent speakers. It even has a few native speakers. There is literature, music, etc. I see absolutely no reason why it's not possible to create a course for it which is no more contrived than one for a non-constructed language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6488 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written) | Message 34 of 191 04 July 2007 at 11:28am | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah, I keep asking that, too.I am at an intermediate level, and I am not sure how useful Using French and French with Ease would be for me. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kleberson Diglot Senior Member Great Britain Joined 6215 days ago 166 posts - 168 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese Studies: Italian, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 35 of 191 04 July 2007 at 2:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think the 'using' courses are to make the learner aware of regional differences and pronunciation, I may be completely wrong though. I'm sure it would probably help you in my opinion. As for the French with ease course, I would definitely go for it, it will brush up any loose areas you may have, and give you more vocabulary depending on what your current level is. Edited by Kleberson on 04 July 2007 at 2:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6462 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 36 of 191 05 July 2007 at 2:09am | IP Logged | |||||
I did the Using French to reactivate my high school French and it worked pretty well. It's very good to learn idiomatic expressions. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cage Diglot aka a.ardaschira, Athena, Michael Thomas Senior Member United States Joined 6421 days ago 382 posts - 393 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 37 of 191 06 July 2007 at 12:06am | IP Logged | |||||
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How would a native speaker of Esperanto come about?
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| tpiz Diglot Groupie United States cvillepayne.blogspot Joined 6161 days ago 77 posts - 79 votes Studies: Portuguese, English*, French Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 38 of 191 06 July 2007 at 12:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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Some kids grow up with parents who both speak Esperanto and learn it as a child, but I'm sure they have to end up being bilingual at the least.
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| FSI Senior Member United States Joined 6156 days ago 550 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English* | Message 39 of 191 06 July 2007 at 12:50am | IP Logged | |||||
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Wouldn't a native speaker of Esperanto come about the way native speakers of any language come about? No language simply existed for all time - at one point or another, there were people who spoke it partly, but not quite thoroughly. If those people had kids, and said kids were raised in the same environment, the kids learned the language completely. Thirty years ago, Nicaraguan Sign Language was invented out of thin air by a bunch of determined kids. The first generation didn't reach a full command of it, but the second gen kids did so easily. And you rarely see people going about stating there aren't native signers of NLS. The same happened with the resurrection of Hebrew, which, by all accounts, was a dead language before its revival in Israel. Yet no one asks "how can there be native speakers of Hebrew?". I imagine eventually, there will be too many speakers of Esperanto for people to keep insisting it isn't a real language, that it contains no native speakers, that it cannot be a mother tongue, and other fun (but innaccurate) things to say.
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| tpiz Diglot Groupie United States cvillepayne.blogspot Joined 6161 days ago 77 posts - 79 votes Studies: Portuguese, English*, French Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 40 of 191 06 July 2007 at 12:59am | IP Logged | |||||
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Actually I was reading an article about how Esperanto should be counted as a natural language because of the fact that kids grew up speaking Esperanto as their native language. I don't know everything about the topic but I do know that it's happened but I don't know if they have a full grasp of the language or what.
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