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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5922 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 33 of 66 23 January 2013 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ho acoltato molto Italiano e imparare le molte nuove parole.
una lista di parole ciò nonostante - nevertheless, nonetheless rendere - to return, to give back; to give, to render, to offer, inginocchiarsi - to kneel riconsegnare - to return, to give back, to hand back sommesso/sommessa - whispered restituire - to return, to restore contraccambiare - to return, to exchange, to repay, to reciprocate appartenenza - belonging to, membership of aggrapparsi - to cling, to hang on sembrare - to seem, to appear, to look like, to feel like risvegliare - to awaken, to rouse incontrare - to run across, to meet entrare - to enter, to go in, to have to do with condividere - to share tramite - path, by means of pregare - to ask, to plead, to beseech cambiamento - change, transformation adempimento - compliance, fulfillment andarsene - to go away lenzuolo - bed sheet appoggiare - to lean, to rest suggerire - to suggest, to prompt detenere - to hold, to possess, to detain ravvivare - to rekindle, to revive avvicinarsi - to get closer to, to become attached giungere - to arrive, to go as far, to join adempiere - to comply, to acquiesce ottemperare - to comply, to obey esaudire - to grant mutevole - changeable sfuggire - to escape rallegrare - to cheer up, to brighten up piangere - to cry, to weep, to lament riavere - to have again amorevole - loving, affectionate ripristinare - to restore pensare - to think rianimare - to reanimate, to liven up soccorrere - to help, to give aid My list should actually be longer and include Finnish and Polish words too, but I saved the list in my email and I'm having problems with my email right now. The verbs are listed in the infinitive forms but they were conjugated when I encountered them, but I wanted to learn the infinitive forms. I was very surprised to find a few examples of passato remoto, so maybe it is a little more common than I had thought. Questo è tutto per ora. ciao Mick Edited by mick33 on 28 January 2013 at 11:18pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5922 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 34 of 66 26 January 2013 at 10:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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I lost my list of Polish words from the other day so I will have to do two things later on today: 1. Write my wordlists down on paper first. 2. Type them out. My email is working now, and somehow I did not lose the Finnish list. So here it is:
tarkkaavaisesti - intently, closely, attentively istuma - sedentary urkujen - organ (genitive plural) suurenmoinen - magnificent, brilliant pahoitella - to regret, to be sorry, to apologize puolivuosittain - semiannually, etuoikeus - privilege, preference, prerogative, toivottaa - to bid, to wish huomisaamu - tomorrow morning tutkinto - examination, degree mainita - to mention, to state, to reference puheessani - in my speech, (inessiivi and plural form of puhe, and I tried to guess this one) This list is shorter because it took me longer to figure out the meaning of some words as I still don't have a good grasp of Finnish suffixes. "Huomisaamu" gave me a lot of trouble. At first, I looked for the words "huomi" and "saamu" but that didn't seem right. I don't know if "saamu" is even possible and the closest word I did find was "saame" which means "Sami" as in the Sami people, only I haven't been reading about the Sami people. I could not find the word "tekemäsi", so it is not in the list here. I am pretty sure that "tekemäsi" is a form of "tehdä" and I think the "si" suffix means "you", but what does "mä" mean here? I have no idea. Maybe wordlists aren't the best way to learn Finnish. Heippa Mick Edited by mick33 on 26 January 2013 at 10:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4519 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 35 of 66 26 January 2013 at 11:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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"tekemäsi" should be something like "of your doing"
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| sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4557 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish | Message 36 of 66 27 January 2013 at 10:39am | IP Logged | ||
Correct. The literal translation would be "that you have done/made". In principle, you can always replace "tekemäsi X" with "X, jonka olet tehnyt" or "X, jonka teit", though it would sound clunky in most cases. Note that the word "istuma" has the same -ma/-mä affix, and thus most likely means "that he/she/it (has) sat", which—admittedly—is a strange thing to say. Alternatively, it could perhaps refer to an amount of sitting, or something along those lines. I don't see how "istuma" could be translated as "sedentary". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5922 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 37 of 66 28 January 2013 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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Now I'm a little embarrassed! I thought I already knew about the agent participle, but I don't. I have tried to find more examples of it being used, but I haven't seen many yet... I'll keep looking.
"Istuma" being translated as "sedentary is defintely a mistake, for a few reasons. First, the word I should have typed is "istumapaikka" which sanakirja.org translated as "seat". I'm not sure where "istuma" came from or how I found the translation "sedentary". Even worse, How I could I forget that "istuma" looks like the verb "istua"? I'm pretty sure "istua" means "to sit" and I know I mentioned it in one of my earlier logs. When I looked up "istuma" in wiktionary, it is the agent participle. Even if wiktionary is correct (maybe that's a dangerous thing to assume) I'm still back where I started this morning. I'll learn, and write, about agent participles after I eat luch and focus on Spanish for a little while. Näkemiin Mick Edited by mick33 on 31 January 2013 at 11:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5345 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 38 of 66 28 January 2013 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | ||
I hope you don’t mind my pointing that out: there are a couple of typos in your list. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5922 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 39 of 66 28 January 2013 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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@Emme: Grazie, I'm actually surprised there aren't more typos in the list.
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5922 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 40 of 66 30 January 2013 at 12:31am | IP Logged | ||
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Escuché a Grushenka anoche. Esta mañana leí sobre el idioma español en Colombia.
I går tittade jag en intervju med Annika Norlin. I listened to some Finnish news and music yesterday, but forgot all about the agent participle until I read yesterday's posts again a few minutes ago. I'm tempted to jsut listen to, and try to read, Finnish and stop trying to actively learn the grammar but I also realized that, aside from the agent participle, I don't understand the form "kirjoitettu" well. I know "kirjoitta" so I assume "kirjoitettu" is some kind of past tense and means "written" but I had never seen the "ttu" suffix before last week... I'll read about this grammar point too, most likely with Yle radio playing in the background. I'm also back to reading the Bible in Afrikaans, just like I was doing four years ago, until I can find other interesting things to read. Hasta pronto Mick Edited by mick33 on 01 February 2013 at 12:35am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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