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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5344 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 209 of 299 28 October 2013 at 12:29pm | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
Scandinavians do adapt consciously. Whenever I speak to Cristina for example, I speak
Swedish, and she definitely does not speak pure Norwegian. |
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I most certainly do!!! At times I "cross over" and attempt to speak Swedish, but I then go the full hog, whith Swedish phonology and all - I have probably done that with you, I do not remember. I would however never speak Svorsk. At the very most I will slow down, articulate better, or use more simple sentences, but when I speak Norwegian, I speak Norwegian, as pure as it comes - regardless of whether I speak with a Dane, a Swede or a foreigner.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4717 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 210 of 299 28 October 2013 at 12:44pm | IP Logged |
You probably spoke more Swedish then, haha. To me it sounded like Swedish and not
Norwegian.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5344 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 211 of 299 28 October 2013 at 12:51pm | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
You probably spoke more Swedish then, haha. To me it sounded like Swedish and not
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Then that was probably what I attempted to speak :-)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4717 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 212 of 299 28 October 2013 at 12:56pm | IP Logged |
It was a while back. And my Swedish was worse. You are forgiven :P Maybe speak Norwegian
next time :P
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| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5440 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish
| Message 213 of 299 28 October 2013 at 1:06pm | IP Logged |
oziohume wrote:
I think I agree with Chung in that there exist for me two separate questions.
I admit that this conventions are for me important, because languages are about people,
and communication. This would mean for me that there exist separate denominations for a
language such as the former Yugoslavian ones.
However, although they may be separate languages, that does not mean that I would accept
them in a Curriculum Vitae as separate languages, unless it was specifically required.
Therefore someone speaking Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin for me wouldn't
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I think this post sums up the debate quite well. I especially like the point about listing the languages in a CV
"unless specifically required." I would think that users would know how to deal with the politics of language when
applying for jobs.
Back to Scandinavia where I find it fascinating that there seems to be an easy flow of people between languages
and dialects. When I was in Norway I remember noticining on a ship that the writing on signs seemed a bit
different from what I had seen elsewhere. Someone then explained to me that it was Nynorsk and a bit of the
history. I marveled at the fact that such a sparsely populated country could have two variants of the official
language in addition
to all the regional dialects that seem to be thriving.
Edit: "tiny county" was corrected to "sparsely populated country"
Edited by s_allard on 28 October 2013 at 3:44pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6607 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 214 of 299 28 October 2013 at 2:10pm | IP Logged |
Ugh, it's not a county and it's not so tiny.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4717 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 215 of 299 28 October 2013 at 2:13pm | IP Logged |
s_allard wrote:
As a very remote observer who has never heard any of these languages,
I tend to rely on official or administrative
recognition. If the EU, the UN, the United States government, etc. all recognize four
languages, then four languages
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Thing is that you can't rely on political documents. Better to get to know what the
languages are like and gain some educational value out of it in the process.
Norway isn't tiny, just not densely populated.
Edited by tarvos on 28 October 2013 at 2:47pm
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5344 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 216 of 299 28 October 2013 at 2:18pm | IP Logged |
s_allard wrote:
Back to Scandinavia where I find it fascinating that there seems to be an easy flow of people between languages
and dialects. When I was in Norway I remember noticining on a ship that the writing on signs seemed a bit
different from what I had seen elsewhere. Someone then explained to me that it was Nynorsk and a bit of the
history. I marveled at the fact that such a tiny county could have two variants of the official language in addition
to all the regional dialects that seem to be thriving. |
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I guess technically we have 5:-) In Norwegian we have the two variants of Bokmål and Nynorsk (plus half a million of spoken dialects) and then in some counties we have Sami as official language, and within Sami there are three differents variants.
We just like to be difficult :-)
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