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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4526 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 81 of 270 25 March 2012 at 11:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
Great job, Cristina! I'm impressed with your devotion to German!
Well, you can look at it both ways. I always say “Zdrastvutje”, but if they speak too fast it might become a “Drastvutje” maybe? Probably the same as what happens to "Pojaluista", that becomes "Pojalusta" or "Pojalsta", depending on how fast the person is talking. I'm not sure, but it might be the case. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6408 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 82 of 270 26 March 2012 at 1:04am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'd say there is always some z-like sound there somewhere, but it's not as clear as s or sh in word-initial consonant clusters (in various languages). it's just there, and you might pronounce it unnaturally noticeably (because it IS a difficult cluster to pronounce, heh). I think if what follows is pronounced well, nobody will realize whether the z was there or not :D It might be more like a practical tip: better underpronounce than overpronounce it.
Also, at least Finnish tends to get rid of consonant clusters. Estonian too I suppose, so maybe Estonians pay even less attention? A common form is zdraste, btw. But there should be something long between a and te (zdrasssste, zdrasute, zdrastute, zdrasvyte etc), otherwise it'll sound careless and disrespectful... or just like joking if you're on ты terms :) Edited by Serpent on 26 March 2012 at 1:10am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5037 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 83 of 270 26 March 2012 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I see Serpent beat me to it. What I hear at Shasha's most of the time is more along the lines of 'Drajste', more or less elongated. However, I quickly learnt that Russians here often joke and mock each other because of how they speak sometimes, so I developed the habit to silently communicate in parallel with my friends through looks and gestures whenever someone says something that sounds a bit weird to me.
Remember, you know 'chto' is actually pronounced 'shto', but it becomes 'cho' for laughs :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4867 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 84 of 270 26 March 2012 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
Not only for laughs. But it is only instead of the pronoun. The conjunction что never becomes чё. Such things happen in all the languages, unfortunately. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5145 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 85 of 270 26 March 2012 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
My Ukrainian friends say "sho-sho" in stead of shto, but I believed that to be Ukrainian? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4787 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian | Message 86 of 270 26 March 2012 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Cristina, well done, as usual!
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4867 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 87 of 270 26 March 2012 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
As well as Southern Russian. Why did you double the word? If ш is spelt sh, how do you write щ? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5145 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 88 of 270 28 March 2012 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I said sho-sho because that is how they say it. And the answer to your second question is : "I have no
idea". :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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