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| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5629 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 137 of 231 03 January 2013 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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I also join my capital letters to the lower case, following the example of whatever resource I used, I can't remember now. I would find it rather strange not to.
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| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4155 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 138 of 231 03 January 2013 at 11:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't know of any peculiarities or different rules for the handwriting of left-handed people. I personally could never tell if the writer of a text is left-handed.
Cursive is used, that is handwriting a bit different that the printed types. Surely the courses for the greek language teach those? In the links I gave in previous posts you can see cursive. That's why you see two forms for κ, etc. Children are still being taught the strokes for the correct handwriting, as is very natural when they learn how to write. What we miss now at schools, what I have been trying to find for you to see, is calligraphy. Joint handwriting with exercises and rules, like the picture I posted. I hope I haven't been the cause of confusion because I didn't get the terms right. I have always tried to write beautifully, that's why the subject interests me so much. I will certainly try to find a good book on the subject, and scan it for you. In addition to the previous links and picture, here is another pic. Do not consider it too elaborate. Just try to write for example your name, in different ways. Go for a beautiful script and do not be afraid it will be over the top, because it won't. 
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| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4407 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek | Message 139 of 231 04 January 2013 at 12:10am | IP Logged | ||
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I think I know what you are talking about renaissancemedi. How to write letters
beautifully, with as few strokes as possible is taught, but the rules about how letters are joined together are non-existent, or no longer taught. You see, here we are taught very specific rules about how letters are joined. If memory serves, we are taught printing in grade one and handwriting (in the cursive, joined up style) in a later grade. You can see an example of how we are taught to write here: http://www.wallpowper.com/j-alphabet-how-to-write-a-cursive- image-search-results- 16679.html I rarely print now; it's just so much quicker to write (cursive). I've been trying to join letters in Greek to make my writing much quicker, but I can't figure out how, for example, to join a letter to ρ or how to join χ to another letter. I think that's where our frustration lies. It's the having to pick the pen up off the paper mid-word. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4407 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek | Message 140 of 231 04 January 2013 at 3:53am | IP Logged | ||
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I'll just mention that when I lived in Mexico I had to print for people because almost no
one was familiar with cursive. It's a dying art in many parts, but not for a few members of Team Spartan! I love looking at those samples renaissancemedi. Thanks for sharing those. It's great to get the insiders perspective. Some written letters vary quite a lot from the typewritten form. Ι notice that the π and the ω sometimes look very similar. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4155 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 141 of 231 04 January 2013 at 7:52am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you embici, that's what I meant!
Yes, the forms vary. When you get used to handwriting, you'll settle to your favourite form for each letter without even noticing. The π and the ω may look similar, but you will not confuse them because that form of π has a big "loop" on top. You can make it bigger than the image sample. Nobody handwrites in printed form. It looks unnatural, slow and ugly. I bet that's true for most alphabets, at least european ones. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4155 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 142 of 231 04 January 2013 at 8:01am | IP Logged | ||
I wrote down the word χρώμα, colour, joining the letters. The right tail of the χ continues upwards to form a loop for ρ, and ρ's vertical line goes up again, and then you form the ω, or any letter. Make any sense? Or, from the upper right tail of the χ, you can write a line straight down, up again, small curve to form the ρ, then a small tail comes out of the circle to form the next letter. That is actually much more beautiful. Edited by renaissancemedi on 04 January 2013 at 8:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4436 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 143 of 231 04 January 2013 at 11:19am | IP Logged | ||
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If one of the team challenges will be to produce a handwritten text in cursive, then I will fail miserably. My handwriting is awful, no matter which script we talk about. I have tried to produce text in cursive in Russian, but I can hardly understand myself what I have written! I guess I should work on it, but it is not the most motivating task when I study.
I guess the problem is that nowadays we type almost everything, whether it is on a PC, a tablet or a smartphone. I can go days without writing anything by hand. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5131 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 144 of 231 04 January 2013 at 11:42am | IP Logged | ||
That makes two of us :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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