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TAC ’14: Sokoły / Соколи (Pol./Ukr. Team) | ||
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| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4654 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes  Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 57 of 151 04 January 2014 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Something what you might find interesting:
http://moje.radio.lublin.pl/lekcje-jezykowe.html - here are the lessons of Ukrainian in Polish. If someone would be interested, I can also provide the text. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6392 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 58 of 151 05 January 2014 at 12:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, s0fist. Such a long post :-) I'm busy in a good way, I'm in Finland ;)))
I've found Ilya Frank's method very good for Ukrainian. Ages ago I even thought it wasn't suitable for anything more distant at the beginner stage, including Polish :D wow, my views have changed a lot :))) My Ukrainian friend explained the pronunciation to me (only the letters that are pronounced completely differently and the ones that don't exist in Russian, nothing more subtle than that), and I started reading. I read aloud (at least Тіні забутих предків - I also read a book with jokes but I don't remember reading them aloud). When I was done I recorded myself reading a passage aloud (should be available among my "sounds") and my friend said I was probably reading better than the people from her (Russian) school in the city that Finns call Harkova. I mean their overall level is of course better than mine, and they had exposure even prior to school, but they used more Russian while learning to read and write, so that in Ukrainian they can speak and write much better than they read aloud. After that I've seen some matches of Dynamo Kyiv and Vorskla Poltava, I only kept track last year and it was 10, but prior to that I watched more matches. In 2012 I listened to some lessons from the EuroLang project. (I also shadowed their Polish lessons... the phrase On jest bardzo przystojny became a family joke after I listened and shadowed it in my parents' presence. to them it sounded like "он ест бардов пристойно" :D) Speaking of Polish, it has certainly helped both my Ukrainian and especially Belarusian. Previously they just seemed so similar to Russian that I found it hard to remember which words are the same and which aren't. Polish provided a new reference point, and now the smaller differences are more noticeable. So if you are overwhelmed by the similarity, try Polish ;) What are your goals? I can't help you with the active skills I'm afraid, but for reading and listening you need next to no formal study. Ohhh and how could I forget... I used to attend the lyceum that belongs to MSLU, and there were some people learning Ukrainian. Not many though, so at one point we also had a linguistics class in the Ukrainian classroom, and I read through some of the textbooks that I found lying around and then took one home to take pictures of the pages. It was meant for non-Russians I think, but it was entirely in Ukrainian, using the direct method. I didn't take a picture of the cover so I don't know the name/author :/ It seemed really good to me though I didn't use it much. Other than this kind of textbook, nowadays I can't imagine using an English-based textbook for any European language, as I know the author will hold my hand way too much, I hate this. Edited by Serpent on 05 January 2014 at 12:24am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 4925 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 59 of 151 05 January 2014 at 7:11pm | IP Logged | ||
I've also asked on lang-8 and got some useful recommendations. I'll keep them here for reference... just in case anyone of you is interested as well. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| rahdonit Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie Ukraine Joined 6409 days ago 50 posts - 87 votes Speaks: Russian*, Ukrainian*, English, German | Message 60 of 151 06 January 2014 at 11:13am | IP Logged | ||
I am personally no big fan of science fiction literature and I don't know much about it. But I heard several times very good reference to books of Maryna and Serhiy Dyachenko. I am sure you can find a lot of their books online both in Ukrainian and Russian. Edited by rahdonit on 06 January 2014 at 11:14am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mts1221 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 3771 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: English*, Romanian Studies: Ukrainian, Spanish | Message 61 of 151 06 January 2014 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hello, I found out about TAC over the weekend - is it too late to join this team? I'm looking to advance to Ukrainian A2 from scratch. I've been studying for about 3 weeks already but of course it's easier with a group. Edited by mts1221 on 06 January 2014 at 7:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5190 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 62 of 151 07 January 2014 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey guys! I'm not in any way affiliated, I just watch for Harry Potter stuff on eBay.. This person has the HP Polish audio books (1-5) for sale on CD. It looks like s/he will ship internationally. I don't want to leave links, but if you go to the main ebay (dotcom) and type in the item number, you'll find it. 281240481700 Just wanted to let the Polish people know, if they are interested. :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| t1234 Diglot Newbie South Africa Joined 3933 days ago 38 posts - 83 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans Studies: Turkish, Polish | Message 63 of 151 07 January 2014 at 11:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Link for my Polish Log:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=37798 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4483 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 64 of 151 07 January 2014 at 11:13pm | IP Logged | ||
You also can get all 7 of the Polish ebooks and mp3-downloadable-audiobooks at shop.pottermore.com. EDIT: At least here in the US you can. I know that some things are region-restricted there for unclear reasons, so no guarantees. Edited by geoffw on 07 January 2014 at 11:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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