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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5921 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 201 of 223 27 November 2009 at 10:29am | IP Logged | |||||
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I gave into wanderlust again yesterday evening, and no one will ever guess what languages I very briefly read about. One language is called Lushootseed, and is one of the Salish languages that was spoken by the native tribes of Washington State. There are three reasons I don't know if I'll ever actually learn this language: 1. Very few people still speak it, although the tribes still exist. 2. Learning materials are scarce. 3. This article says that half of its sounds have no equivalents in English. Still, it would be interesting to learn a truly unusual language.
Wanderlust language #2 is Welsh. Welsh is more problematic for me, because I am more likely to eventually give in to the temptation to learn it someday. My forefathers were Celtic, but I know almost nothing of the culture or the languages they may have spoken centuries ago; so I am curious about the Gaelic languages in general. I have indeed learned a bit more Finnish this last week, but it's late again and I'm tired so I'll write about that later. Kauniita unia! Mick Edited by mick33 on 22 December 2010 at 7:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5921 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 202 of 223 01 December 2009 at 1:59am | IP Logged | |||||
So without further ado, I will finally write something specific about Finnish. First I learned how to write and say "I must" or "I have to" which requires that the personal pronoun be in the genitive case: minun täytyy sinun täytyy hänen täytyy meidän täytyy teidän täytyy heidän täytyy so I can now write "Minun täytyy mennä." (I have to go.)but I think that's an incomplete thought. Oh well, you get the basic idea. One more thing, the infinitive form of the first verb is "täytyä" (to need) Now how about negation? How does one say "don't have to"? For some reason, the required verb is now "tarvita" so I have: minun ei tarvitse sinun ei tarvitse hänen ei tarvitse meidän ei tarvitse teidän ei tarvitse heidän ei tarvitse Oh no! Out of time again, I have to get ready for a Christmas dinner party now. I'll return later this evening to write a few senteces using the above forms and list the vocabulary I've learned. EDIT: I corrected a few mistakes, I got back really late and I'm very tired so I'll continue this post after I get some sleep. Hyvää yötä Nähdään huomenna Mick Edited by mick33 on 14 October 2010 at 10:06am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5921 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 203 of 223 02 December 2009 at 12:45am | IP Logged | |||||
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After sleeping and going to class, I have returned. Today I've been mostly focusing on Swedish, but I have to continue yesterday's post about Finnish and Swedish can wait for the next post.
First, I will type a few sentences to practice using "täytyy" and "ei tarvitse" Minun täytyy ostaa uusi auton (I have to buy new car.) Sinun täytyy nukkua (You have to sleep.) Heidän ei tarvitse lähteä. (They don't have to leave.) Hänen ei tarvitse puhua minulle. (He/she doesn't have to talk to me.) I think the last one is right, but I'm not certain. I wrote down more practice sentneces in my study notebook, so now I will list some verbs. Some of these verbs may have somewhat similar meanings. aloittaa - To begin haluta - to want opetella - To study on your own opettaa - to teach kuulla - to hear kuunnella - to listen kuulostaa - to sound like kuulostella - to try to find out (rare) pelata - to play sports or games osata - to be able to know Näkemiin Mick Edited by mick33 on 02 December 2009 at 12:46am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| FVerschoor Bilingual Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6346 days ago 44 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch* Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 204 of 223 02 December 2009 at 12:56am | IP Logged | |||||
There is actually a Lushotseed course at one of the local community colleges here. It seems so interesting, once I graduate from university I might take it just for fun. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5921 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 205 of 223 02 December 2009 at 2:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5921 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 206 of 223 02 December 2009 at 10:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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I should write something about Swedish or Spanish here, but reading The Ideas of TAC 2010 thread has given me an idea. I am definitely going to do TAC again, but learning 4 languages may not be enough. Why do I say this? I've noticed something about how I learn languages; when I start a language I dabble or flirt for a few months, then I start seriously trying to learn the language. I did this "dabbling phase" with 3 of the 4 languages I am now learning, with Spanish being the exception. I think this "dabbling phase" is good for me because it helps me sort out which languages I'm serious about and which are simply wanderlust languages.
But what language should I dabble with in 2010? I don't know. German, French, Italian, or Mandarin Chinese all seem equally fascinating right now. I could also be interested in Russian, Zulu, Inuktitut or... well you get the idea. So if anybody has a good, or humorous reason why you think I should dabble in Cantonese, Navajo, Swahili or any other language; please let me know by New Year's Eve. I've ignored Spanish and Swedish long enough so tomorrow I will focus mostly on those two languages. God natt Mick Edited by mick33 on 03 December 2009 at 2:39am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5921 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 207 of 223 03 December 2009 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Aprendía el imperativo y el subjuntivo. El imperativo es muy interesante, y es la conjugación que se debe utilizar para se da las ordenes o para se da un consejo. El subjuntivo es descrito a menudo como la construcción gramatical más difícil, porque lo utiliza los patrones de conjugaciones irregular y tambien se puede expresar las actitudes, emociones, dudas o incertidumbres. Mi profesora y mi hermano le me dicen que el subjuntivo es muy confuso, pero crea puede ser más fácil de lo que piensan. Sí, el imperativo is más facil que el subjuntivo, pero debo aprender las dos conjugaciones. Explique las conjugaciones in inglés, ¿verdad? No, no quiero escribir nada in inglés aquí nunca jamás, además necesito practicar español ahora.
Primeró, hago una lista de los patrones en el imperativo familiar. Infinitivo - la orden afirmativa(tú) hablar - habla guardar - guarda prender - prende volver - vuelve pedir - pide imprimir - imprime Las ordenes afirmativas con frecuencia utiliza el patrón mismo que "él/ella" in el indicativo presente. Estoy mucho hambre, y escribiré más después del comer almuerzo. Hasta luego Mick Editar: Hice algunas correciones. Edited by mick33 on 04 December 2009 at 1:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6467 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 208 of 223 03 December 2009 at 11:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Reasons to learn...
Latin - because it is the mother of European languages, it will give you a much better understanding of English, there are some neat quirks that got lost in all modern Romance languages, it is beautifully concise Esperanto - because of all the reasons listed in the Esperanto thread. Plus it has a really neat agglutinative feature, e. g. "mal-san-ul-ej-o" = opposite of - healthy - person - place - noun = a place for sick people = hospital. Swahili - because the verbs are an interesting kind of crazy. ni-na-jua = I-present-know = I know u-ta-jua = you-future-know = you will know ha-tu-li-jua = not-we-past-know = we did not know si-na-ku-jua = I not-present-you-know = I don't know you Edited by Sprachprofi on 05 December 2009 at 3:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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