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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7004 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 193 of 439 21 April 2014 at 1:49am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Note on FSI waves ...
I read chapter 4 in Le Petit Nicolas today. That is going well. I also watched the cartoon from chapter 1. The episode is very loosely based on the book. I'm thinking of this read, then listen and watch wave as expanding what I can do. E.G., understanding the cartoons puts some bones on the Le Petit Nichoas study. The Assimil Business French wave is going smoothly so far. Focus on one lesson, review the previous. Today was lesson 4 of 40. The way I'm imagining putting bones on this track is to start listening to RFI New in Simple French. I did that one day while working in the kitchen. If I can parlay Business French into a descent handle on the news, that will be a big win. As you can read, my new thought process is to put bones on the study track. That is, to leverage something I'm studying to practice something I haven't studied. Edited by luke on 21 April 2014 at 1:53am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7004 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 194 of 439 21 April 2014 at 2:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Notes from http://greaterbooks.com/ for "Great Books" originally written in French. The number represents how many great book lists the book is on.
Michel de Montaigne Les Essais_21 published in three volumes, 1580, 1588, and 1595—French *Lubbock* *Baldwin* *Durant* *Invitation* *France* *Downs* *Rexroth* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Adler* *Good* *Bloom* *Kanigel* *SeymourSmith* *Norway* *Great* *GlobeMail* *World* *Newman* Madame Bovary_20 originally published serially in La Revue de Paris 1 Oct. 1856-15 Dec. 1856—French *Classics* *Durant* *Hundred* *France* *Read* *Ward* *Magill* *Good* *Learning* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *Campbell* *Kanigel* *Norway* *Guardian* *Great* *Zane* *GlobeMail* *Telegraph* *Newman* François Rabelais La Vie de Gargantua et de Pantagruel_19 1532-34—French *Powys* *Durant* *Invitation* *Hundred* *France* *Rexroth* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Adler* *Good* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *SeymourSmith* *Utne* *Norway* *Great* *Newman* Voltaire Candide, ou L'Optimisme_18 1759—French *Powys* *Durant* *Classics* *Hundred* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Adler* *Good* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *SeymourSmith* *Campbell* *Great* *Zane* *Newman* *Graphic* Rene Descartes Discours de la Méthode Pour Bien Conduire sa Raison, et Chercher la Vérité dans les Sciences_16 1637—French *Lubbock* *Eliot* *Invitation* *Classics* *Hundred* *France* *Downs* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Adler* *Good* *Fadiman* *SeymourSmith* *Great* *World* Blaise Pascal Pensées_16 1669—French *Lubbock* *Eliot* *Invitation* *Classics* *France* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Adler* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *SeymourSmith* *Great* *O'Hear* *Reynolds* Victor Hugo Les Misérables_15 1862—French *Baldwin* *Durant* *Classics* *Hundred* *France* *Downs* *Magill* *Good* *Learning* *Bloom* *Guardian* *Harvard* *World* *Newman* *Graphic* Marcel Proust À la Recherche du Temps Perdu (In Remembrance of Things Past)_15 published in seven volumes, two of which originally published as two books each, 1913-27—French *Classics* *France* *Read* *Ward* *Magill* *Good* *Blom* *Fadiman* *Foundation* *Utne* *Norway* *Zane* *GlobeMail* *Telegraph* *Newman* Jean-Jacques Rousseau Du Contrat Social ou Principes du Droit Politique_14 1762—French *Invitation* *Classics* *Hundred* *Downs* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Good* *Foundation* *Dirda* *Great* *GlobeMail* *Telegraph* *Newman* Stendhal Le Rouge et le Noir, Chronique du XIXe Siècle_14 1830—French *Powys* *Classics* *France* *Rexroth* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Good* *Fadiman* *Norway* *Great* *Zane* *Newman* Honoré de Balzac Le Père Goriot_11 originally published serially in Revue de Paris Dec. 1834-Feb. 1835—French *Eliot* *Powys* *Durant* *Hundred* *Read* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *Norway* *Newman* Molière Tartuffe, ou l'Imposteur_11 1664—French *Eliot* *Durant* *Classics* *Read* *Ward* *Van Doren* *Magill* *Adler* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *Newman* Jean-Jacques Rousseau Les Confessions_11 1782—French *Durant* *Invitation* *Classics* *France* *Ward* *Magill* *Bloom* *Fadiman* *SeymourSmith* *Dirda* *Newman* Edited by luke on 21 April 2014 at 10:17am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
 songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5008 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map | Message 195 of 439 22 April 2014 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Good strategy skipping the really easy stuff. Though it's sometimes tricky finding that "sweet spot" between "too easy" and "just right". Was it 95% comprehension that was the "optimal" percentage, from the "extensive reading" threads / research? Would thagt apply to just audio sources too, I wonder? You may also like this quote from Cato Lomb Wikipedia , the Hungarian polyglot re. the value of learning languages:
From her book "Polyglot: How I Learn Languages". (There's the fuller paragraph at Spanishlinguist.us: link. ) It's been posted here on Htlal before, but I find it enormously encouraging. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7004 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 196 of 439 22 April 2014 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't know what the exact percentage is, but knowing say 99% of what's offered in a lesson doesn't really merit spending time to pick up note or detail I might could get from doing the whole lesson carefully. E.G., I get more from spending 20-30 minutes with Assimil Business French than spending the same amount of time with New French with Ease. Don't get me wrong. I'll review NFWE again, but it will primarily be to skim and sniff out something to learn, rather than repeating lessons that are too elementary. With audio reviews in hidden moments, the "fun" is noticing words I may have once knew in a single context or remember struggling with at one time and feeling, "this is all easy now". I need to keep a good bit of challenge going though if I hope to progress. Another place where the "easy" lessons come in handy is when I'm too tired for a challenge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4708 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 197 of 439 22 April 2014 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Where did you find a Petit Nicolas cartoon? (Is the obvious answer Youtube?) I find the audio to the first Petit Nicolas book absolutely delightful to listen to. The story about Le Bullion makes me actually laugh out loud when they all start arguing about who said "le Bullion" and denying it while saying it. The "Jehovah" scene from the Life of Brian might have been ripped off from this story. By the way, there's a live action film of Le Petit Nicolas. I have no idea how good it is. The UK edition has French audio with English subs. The French edition has French subs. Too bad there's not an edition with both subs (although I suspect the Canadian edition might have both). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7004 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 198 of 439 23 April 2014 at 12:34am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Bien sûr! They have a lot of Le Petit Nicolas cartoons on youtube. They also have the movie in French. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4708 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 199 of 439 23 April 2014 at 1:00am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thanks for that! I found one with fixed subtitles in French, which were perfect as far as I could tell. Unfortunately, the picture quality made my eyes go wonky by the end of it. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Mohave Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Mohave1 Joined 3806 days ago 291 posts - 444 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 200 of 439 23 April 2014 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I really enjoy Le Petit Nicholas, and plan to read them in May for the start of the SuperChallenge. I didn't know about the cartoons and I plan to add them after reading and listening to each chapter. Thanks for the share! 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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