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| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5317 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes  Speaks: German*, English | Message 537 of 541 12 August 2016 at 10:18am | IP Logged | ||
AFAIK, the Polish and Russian meanings are identical to the Yiddish word freier, while the Slovak meaning is pretty much identical to the old German meaning of Freier = suitor. (Nowadays, Freier is usually used in German to refer to the clients of prostitutes.) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cherepaha Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6586 days ago 126 posts - 175 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Polish, Latin, French | Message 538 of 541 12 September 2016 at 7:53pm | IP Logged | ||
viedums, there is a Russian cognate with the same meaning as you are describing for Latvian, i.e. "work". It is used in reference to agricultural work only. Cтрада [stra'da] is Russian for "intense summer-time work during the harvesting of the grain producing crops" ("напряжённая летняя работа во время косьбы, жатвы и уборки хлеба" per Wikipedia). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cherepaha Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6586 days ago 126 posts - 175 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Polish, Latin, French | Message 539 of 541 12 September 2016 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | ||
Stressed vowels in Russian language are pronounced louder and are stretched to be somewhat longer. And if you whisper, making sounds louder doesn't work, so just the length of the vowel indicates that the stress falls onto it. As a result to a Russian speaker a long vowel sounds like it is under stress. Consequently, if in studying a foreign language one is told that stress falls on the 1st syllable, but that vowel in the 2nd syllable should be long, in trying to pronounce it a Russian speaker hears that both vowels are under stress. Trying to resolve that doesn't easily lead to successfully separating "stressed" from "long", and I think that this confusion might explain why Russian speakers give up on mastering the proper control of the vowel length. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cherepaha Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6586 days ago 126 posts - 175 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Polish, Latin, French | Message 540 of 541 12 September 2016 at 9:54pm | IP Logged | ||
In Russian language this is definitely a part of the taboo vocabulary known as мат [mat], as it makes a reference to intercourse. I don't know anything about Polish curse words -- does Polish use a subset of the same mat as Russian, or is this just an instance of a "cool" borrowing from Russian or Ukranian? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 541 of 541 30 September 2016 at 5:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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The root is present in all Slavic languages. It's not on the Swadesh list but it's definitely core vocabulary...
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