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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 281 of 1702 05 April 2012 at 12:22am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks! I've been told that by other people but frankly I think it's the people replying to my posts offering help that are the best. But I'm glad the thread is of use to you. I enjoy posting here ;). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 282 of 1702 05 April 2012 at 7:05am | IP Logged | ||
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Day before my 誕生日. That's birthday if you can't read the kanji yet. (tanjoubi). Just listening to another awesome Utada song in English and hitting the thumbs down button on Pandora. This is so depressing. I wonder if Pandora is going to just give up on me and say they've run out of good music to play maybe I should pick another artist. I haven't had beer in a few months - I went on a diet and well beer had to go but making an exception tonight. I could also just go off this diet if I wanted since I've reached my weight goal anyway. Beer is good. Doing homework while drinking... better check it again in the morning to make sure it's right but I think it's ok.
I did some Potter tonight for the first time in a while. The Japanese class I take is pretty demanding so that's been the focus. I did a few pages and then the Japanese homework was calling to me from the table so I went over and started doing it (while drinking beer). It's kind of hard to stay focused on stuff that's not directly related to class right now. I'm looking forward to summer and the free time I'll get back but at the same time I'm going to miss all the friends I've made in the class. In my description on Match.com I specifically said "must love watching anime and studying Japanese." I bet I get no response heh. I totally get what AJATT says when he talks about cutting ties off with all your English speaking friends and only talking to Japanese friends. He says almost doing it instead of outright doing it but if I were to get a normal girlfriend I could just see how my obsession with studying Japanese would drive her nuts. I had a co-worker ask me all about my love life at work and towards the end of the conversation she declared my girlfriend was Rosetta Stone. She was just some chick I had been sitting next to for a couple months and she actually seemed mad at me over it. I can only imagine how bad an actual relationship would be. Well it's 10pm.. Normally this is bedtime but I took tomorrow off so I will be up for a couple more hours.. probably going to watch a couple anime and study some vocab. Good stuff heh. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6621 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 283 of 1702 05 April 2012 at 7:50am | IP Logged | ||
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お誕生日おめでとうございます。
I'm sure you will find a girl out there somewhere who likes both Japanese and anime. It's better to search a while and find someone who shares your interests than to just go out with the first pretty girl you meet and realize after a few months that she is nothing more than pretty. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 284 of 1702 05 April 2012 at 2:35pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks. Pretty doesn't sound so bad ;p. Maybe if I find a way to get to Japan... those two req's would be so much easier. Oh well no rush really. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 285 of 1702 05 April 2012 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I saw another Japanese learner talking about Memrise in his log and I'm checking it out. It looks good. I'll be giving it an honest try - although thus far I've always gone back to my regular spaced repetition iOS flashcard app - Flashcards Deluxe. The site looks to be setup to teach vocabulary for a variety of foreign languages including Japanese. I think it's in beta right now so under construction. When you pick Japanese you get options for Japanese (96,505 words), Japanese Kanji (21,672 words), Japanese Kanji Reading (5,750), and Japanese Kana (353 words). I chose the first one. Then they listed 3 featured courses (basically decks of cards to study or list of vocabulary).
The featured ones are JLPT N2 Memrise Community Edited Course, JLPT N3 Vocab, and JLPT N5 Vocab. Just three but if you scroll down there's tons of courses submitted by users and I'm sure some are quite nice. It looks a lot like Quizlet.com or another flashcard website but the interface is nicer I think and they claim to utilize memorization research to create the best spaced repetition algorithms possible. I chose the N3 featured set (I'm not N3 yet but they don't have N4 and you got to start sometime). They present the word showing the kana in large and then the kanji to the right a little smaller. I made my browser zoom in to make the font/kanji easier to read - especially the kanji. Below the Japanese it gives a mnemonic sentence/phrase that was submitted by a user. Here's an example: なっとく 納得 consent Chip: I can't open this chestnut, can I have your CONSENT to use your NATTOKUracker? Obviously some mnemonics are better than others. For learning new words it cycles through showing you the whole thing and testing you either multiple choice style (which is super easy as you might guess) or typing in the kana. The latter is way harder heh. They don't have any built in kana input that I can see (yet) but it's pretty easy to do if you know how to use your operating system. They give partial credit if you're close - ie if you forget the little つ in なっとく they'd give you partial points instead of just saying you suck and you're wrong. That's a nice change of pace from other language learning programs. One thing I setup on my vocabulary for my Japanese class that I really like though was adding the Heisig meanings of the kanji used for a word. It's helping me a lot to learn compound words - IE 誕生日 I didn't know the kanji for that last week but now I think I've got it down. Just as long as I don't forget nativity, life, day at least hehe. If I like the spaced repetition algorithms for this memrise site I suppose I could just modify the list to include the heisig meanings for the kanji. When you test words you already know it's a bit different. I've only gone through it once but what they did was to give the English at the top and then list 10 (I think) words (using kana) and there was a timer to the right. As the timer counted down it removed a wrong answer from the list. The faster you answered the more points you got. I haven't seen a study routine quite like this and it makes you try harder and focus more. At least it did for me the 1st time. We'll see how the site goes and if it works out. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 286 of 1702 05 April 2012 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Pandora keeps spitting out more English lyric songs no matter how much I click thumbs down.. it just doesn't get it.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 287 of 1702 14 April 2012 at 6:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm going to make a sentence deck of SRS flashcards. This is inspired by AJATTs blog and it makes sense. I haven't decided yet where I'm going to get most of the sentences. I'd like to have a sentence for every vocab word I've learned / will learn but right now I don't know where I'd get simple enough sentences to make that practical. Jisho.org has example sentences but they're a bit over my head and it would be a bad idea I think to try to memorize them. I need stuff more basic. I did just order the Oxford Japanese beginners dictionary. AJATT mentioned this as a source (although he outgrew it very quickly). I am not sure what he means by quickly. 6 months? I would guess it would take me longer to outgrow it than it did for him since well he's the All Japanese All The Time guy.
Another alternative is just to take sentences from Harry Potter and make a deck out of them using the professional translations. This appeals to me but, again, would include some complex sentences that are over my head right now. Maybe I could just skip those longer sentences? Or the challenge would be good for me? Another thing I'm working on is how to setup the flashcards. Do I test myself with English on side 1 and Japanese on side 2? Would it be too easy on me to have Japanese on card 1? Unfortunately I don't have the time to test both ways so it's gonna be one or the other. How I would love to quit my job and just study Japanese full time lol. I mike look at japanesepod101.com again for their list of vocab. I think they had a lot of example sentences. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5185 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 288 of 1702 14 April 2012 at 6:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Just pulled up Potter and it's way way over my head for trying anything like this lol. I think I'll just read it using parallel text and rikaichan instead.
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