Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7153 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 449 of 902 15 December 2012 at 4:44pm | IP Logged |
As I was exchanging PMs with one of our guardian angels, I was starting to wonder if we should clarify how learners could interact with them on linguistic matters. Certainly I don't think that we should expect all guardian angels to be like Maрк who was a pioneer or model of an involved guide by regularly checking and commenting in log entries by that team's members. On the other hand, I'm not sure if firing PMs to guardian angels every time a question comes up is that feasible (especially if that guardian angel can be a point of contact for more than half a dozen people in the team). That angel's Inbox could fill up in a hurry.
I can see a few approaches, and I'm requesting comments to sort it out as best we can before things start officially.
1) Post questions about the target language(s) in the team's thread so that anyone can answer after having seen it.
2) Post questions about the target language(s) in the log entry with the hope that anyone reading it will act on it (in theory this is almost the same as 1) especially if team members read each other's logs regularly (if not frequently))
3) Send PMs to the guardian angel(s) if no one responds to the request in the open after a few days
4) Continue as it's often done by posting questions in the relevant sub-forum (usually "Specific Languages" or "Questions about your Target Languages" rather than in "Language Learning Logs")
I also think that while the guardian angel idea is good, I wouldn't want to exclude other native speakers from chiming in or adding their two cents if by chance they feel that they can answer something (after all this is a strength of this forum). With Team Żubr, it seemed to work OK with Gosiak, tozick, pesahon and Theodisce acting as an informal committee but each offering their input for Polish at different times when they came upon relevant posts or requests.
Edited by Chung on 15 December 2012 at 5:43pm
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JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4449 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian)
| Message 450 of 902 15 December 2012 at 4:53pm | IP Logged |
Brun Ugle, please add TheGreaterFool(Hebrew) and Druckfehler(Persian) back to the Middle
Eastern team. Thanks!
Can we call you Mother Hen? :)
Edited by JohannaNYC on 15 December 2012 at 5:55pm
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5331 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 451 of 902 15 December 2012 at 5:02pm | IP Logged |
I think Chung's suggestions seem very sensible. It would not be feasible for someone to answer multiple PMs with linguistic questions from several members of a team, as well as taking part in a team him or herself. Besides, then the others on the team lose out on an opportunity to learn.
I have not come across that particular issue yet, but I agree that it is nice for everyone to know what it reasonable to expect and not.
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Anya Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 5790 days ago 636 posts - 708 votes Speaks: Russian*, FrenchC1, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: German, Japanese, Hungarian, Sanskrit, Portuguese, Turkish, Mandarin Studies: Ancient Greek, Hindi
| Message 452 of 902 15 December 2012 at 5:42pm | IP Logged |
In addition to "*jäŋe / *ledús" and Turkish, I wold like to join Spanish and French groups
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Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6617 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish
| Message 453 of 902 15 December 2012 at 6:03pm | IP Logged |
Updates:
cathrynm:
Added to *jäŋe /*ledús
wyctory:
Guardian Angel for Kolohilici (Slovak)
TheGreaterFool:
Added to the Middle Eastern team
druckfelher:
Added to the Middle Eastern team
Anya:
Added to Spanish and French
Regarding the role of Guardian Angel/Godparent, I think this has to be up to the individual to decide how they will handle their role. It is already very common for people to read the logs of those who are studying their language and to offer hints and tips. I see this simply as way to formalize that relationship. And I hope it won't make other native speakers feel unwelcome. Anyone can still post in other people's logs.
I don’t think we can expect anyone to spend all their time combing the logs of another team as well as their own, nor can we bombard them with questions. I think if you need specific help with something, I think it is probably still best to post the question in the relevant sub-forum.
I think agreeing to be a godparent means promising to have a look at or skim the logs of your godchildren at least now and then and give a bit of advice, but not necessarily to answer every little question all the time or to correct everything they write. (There is lang-8 for that.) Of course, Cristina is already rallying her Vikings and preparing them for battle with weapons and a fight song, but I think most people will just stand back and watch, and only step in when their charges are about to run out into traffic.
It was mrwarper who came up with the concept, so he might like to define it further or perhaps disagree with me entirely.
Edited by Brun Ugle on 15 December 2012 at 6:09pm
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Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6617 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish
| Message 454 of 902 15 December 2012 at 6:07pm | IP Logged |
JohannaNYC wrote:
Can we call you Mother Hen? :) |
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As my mother says, "Call me anything you want; just don't call me late for dinner."
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fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4712 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 455 of 902 15 December 2012 at 6:37pm | IP Logged |
I was on the 1st Romance Team, but I don't wanna be in too many teams so instead of being in both, just move me to the French Team, please. =)
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Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6617 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish
| Message 456 of 902 15 December 2012 at 6:43pm | IP Logged |
fabriciocarraro wrote:
I was on the 1st Romance Team, but I don't wanna be in too many teams so instead of being in both, just move me to the French Team, please. =) |
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Got it.
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