Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 41 of 180 05 March 2014 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
German:
Begegnungen A1 Kapitel 5: Pages 126,127,128,129 review; Vokab review of 110-125
Half of Hugo Chapter 5. Quite liked this chapter. Lots of tiny German functional words.
Ordered Living Language Ultimate German volume I for 13 euros.
I will wait to see if the advanced book goes for a reasonable price by third party
resellers (new or used). Right now the prices are exorbitant and the book is out of
print. I even emailed Living Language asking them to reprint.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 42 of 180 07 March 2014 at 8:22pm | IP Logged |
German:
Hugo: Finished chapter 5.
Did a bit of chapter 6. Chapter 6 is woefully inadequate. It covers
prepositions in 5 short pages, which is a joke. Chapter 5 also was not very clear on
nicht/kein, and nicht positioning. But the exercises, dialogue, and vocab were good.
Got an email from the LL girl saying she will forward my request to the publishers. I
guess this is the best I could have hoped for in the current climate of customer brush
off.
Ordered LL Ultimate Advanced hardcover in "acceptable" condition for about 10 euros
(came across it in a search). Lets see what the condition of the book is when it comes
(all the way over from US: the cost of the book was less than the shipping cost).
Darn, saturday is already here . *%$#. Need more days in a week.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 43 of 180 08 March 2014 at 8:44pm | IP Logged |
German:
Finished Hugo Chapter 6. This took the whole day today (ie way too much time).
But the exercises were good. I was planning to do some other work, but darn German took
the whole day + random HTAL crap.
It is surprising that in 6 short chapters of Hugo German, there is some material that
was not covered in 2 months of intensive German classes costing two thousand euros at
Goethe Institut, Granted, they covered some other stuff, but they were supposed to
cover prepositions, and the 6 pages of Hugo on prepositions seem to have more. Urk.
And I need 10 days in a week. I really do.
Edited by Gemuse on 09 March 2014 at 5:08pm
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 44 of 180 09 March 2014 at 5:07pm | IP Logged |
English: I'd like to be able to write sentences like this:
Chung wrote:
May I add that being gratuitously tendentious and appealing to the same imperfect
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 45 of 180 16 March 2014 at 12:30am | IP Logged |
German:
Covered one pass of Hugo chapter 7. Need a few more passes. Lots of grammar stuff in
this chapter.
I have been paying more attention to preposition uses. Someone mentioned that
difference between preposition uses is a cause of difficulty in language learning. In
English we say "waiting for" but in German it is "warten auf", eg "Auf welchen
Bus warten Sie?".
And in English we would say " 7th to finish the test", but in German it is
"Ich bin als Siebter mitt der Prüfung fertig."
Was also looking at the pronunciation section (chapter 1). Realized I need to spend
more time on it.
1. I know how to say it (at least I think) "Ich".
But I have been saying "Manch" as "Mansh". The problem is that the tongue at the "n"
is at the top, so "ch" become "sh". Need to figure out how to fix it. And similar "ch"
issues. I had figured out "Ich" and "Buch" so I thought I have "ch" figured out. Nope
:-\
2. Also need to figure out the "er" sound. I realized I prolly could not distinguish
between "Liebe" and "lieber", which have vastly different meanings.
English:
Spend quite some time on double perfect constructions and proper conditional uses
here at HTLAL. Thanks to michaelyus for a very detailed and helpful post.
Edited by Gemuse on 16 March 2014 at 12:34am
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daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4347 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic
| Message 46 of 180 16 March 2014 at 1:05am | IP Logged |
Gemuse wrote:
But I have been saying "Manch" as "Mansh". The problem is that the tongue at the "n"
is at the top, so "ch" become "sh". Need to figure out how to fix it.
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In German, we usually don't use the tip of the tongue to pronounce the [n] but the flat
front of the tongue (the tip almost touches the inside of the teeth). In order to
pronounce the <ch> you only need to shift the pressure point farther back from there
while you are pronouncing the [n].
If you can't do that, position the tongue already for the <ch> before pronouncing the
<n>, ie. use a palatal n. In rapid speech, it shouldn't get noticed.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 47 of 180 16 March 2014 at 4:55pm | IP Logged |
daegga wrote:
Gemuse wrote:
But I have been saying "Manch" as "Mansh". The problem is that the tongue at the "n"
is at the top, so "ch" become "sh". Need to figure out how to fix it.
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In German, we usually don't use the tip of the tongue to pronounce the [n] but the flat
front of the tongue (the tip almost touches the inside of the teeth). In order to
pronounce the <ch> you only need to shift the pressure point farther back from there
while you are pronouncing the [n].
If you can't do that, position the tongue already for the <ch> before pronouncing the
<n>, ie. use a palatal n. In rapid speech, it shouldn't get noticed. |
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Thanks daegga, great tip!! I did not know that about the German "n"!
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 3908 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 48 of 180 16 March 2014 at 7:45pm | IP Logged |
Weekly dose of ItchyFeet.
http://www.itchyfeetcomic.com/2014/03/fluency-confusion.html
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