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| rad Newbie United States Joined 5599 days ago 18 posts - 23 votes Speaks: French | Message 105 of 222 01 April 2010 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm trying the Gold List only because it fits with a need I have right now. I've been reading easy adapted stories for some time and recording the words I didn't recognize. Some words I had already listed and looked up in the glossary a half dozen times over a period of several weeks. (That's sort of gold list anyway.)
So from my original lists of masses of words and repeated words, I culled 20 for each day for the Gold List. That means that some of the words were already semi-familiar and that as I continued to read, some kept reappearing in the stories. After the first distillation, the results are questionable, I feel more confident about the words that I have seen repeatedly. But those words I've only seen 2 or 3 times will go the limit, I fear. I'll continue with the system (until I get bored) because it does make me focus on the words instead of just reading the next story. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5996 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes  Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 106 of 222 01 April 2010 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
Which is basically what I was trying to say earlier -- it's not the physical "writing a list" that makes the words stick, it's what you're doing with the words in your head while writing. The description of the Gold List technique is missing a vital step. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Woodpecker Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5796 days ago 351 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Arabic (classical) | Message 107 of 222 01 April 2010 at 8:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's a pretty huge assumption to make as someone who has never actually tried it. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5720 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 108 of 222 02 April 2010 at 5:30am | IP Logged | |||||
I was wondering about that, maybe you have an answer: How does this method compare to Iversen's lists in terms of time needed, effectiveness, and so on? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ALS Senior Member United States Joined 5789 days ago 104 posts - 131 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Finnish, Russian | Message 110 of 222 06 April 2010 at 4:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I just finished distilling several lists myself and I'm not impressed. I remembered three words from the first list, one of which I already knew but not very well and the other two were both very similar so just by seeing the two near each other I was reminded of the meanings, and I didn't remember any other words at all, let alone 30% of each list.
These were all words I really wanted to learn, too. It was hard to resist just abandoning the lists and plugging them into my SRS. I really did enjoy creating the initial lists though. I may try this method again with a much shorter wait time, such as 1 week or a few days. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5366 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 111 of 222 06 April 2010 at 5:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
That would defeat the purpose of the system, though. I'm not remembering 30% either, except that I probably end up being close to 30% when I am forced to make decisions about what I actually do know (words I didn't think I knew and must admit I rather know them now that I must delete them from the list) and when you factor in the fact that words from the list pop up in my everyday life so that when I return to the list, those words have been learned in the interval. While I am torn between feeling like someone scammed me, is probably laughing and I am simply ignoring it, or entirely ignoring the fact that I am ignoring, I must still admit that this is the only time I've ever made vocabulary lists of any kind and I AM finding some benefit to it because I do frequently think "Oh! I know that word!" or "What was that word again, I wrote it down in my list!" and the lists are indeed increasing my passive vocabulary. I have yet to distill a list twice though. As I distill them for the first time, I do notice that I have a lot more time to review the words. As I said in previous posts, my initial list takes so long for me to put together that I have very little time to study them if I am to stick to the 20-minute rule. I'm no so sure what to do about that yet. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5996 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 112 of 222 06 April 2010 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
If the creator of the system can't provide anything other than anecdotal evidence/opinion to support his assertion of the most effective way of doing it, surely ALS is free to experiment with it himself? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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