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| Vos Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5564 days ago 766 posts - 1020 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 561 of 568 17 September 2014 at 2:26am | IP Logged | ||
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Nee, mijn grootouders zijn in Australië ook, maar ik heb twee tante en wat neven die daar nog wonen (Hoe vreemd
dat het woord 'neef' betekent 'cousin' én 'nephew'.. ik vraag me af of dat vroeger in het Engels ook zo was..). Dus nu ben je alweer thuis of nog door Europa reizen? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Hekje Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4701 days ago 842 posts - 1330 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch Studies: French, Indonesian | Message 562 of 568 17 September 2014 at 2:29am | IP Logged | ||
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Netherlands Report
So I just got back from the Netherlands! Yay! I wanted to write down my thoughts on the language side of this whole experience while it's still fresh. First: before I left Latvia, I estimated that my level in Dutch was around B2. On the other hand, I didn't know how things would really play out because I hadn't actively studied Dutch since the spring. Out of supreme laziness, I did not really brush up beforehand either. When I arrived in the airport in Eindhoven, I was thrilled to be surrounded by the language for the first time in a long time. I'd spent so much time in Latvia that I'd gotten used to not understanding what people were saying around me. Now it felt like my ears were suddenly super-sharp, like a bat. That night I hung out in Utrecht with some friends from the art school. We sat around a fire by the edge of a canal. (Typical Dutch.) To my pleasant surprise, I was able to follow the conversation quite easily - thank the hundreds of hours I've spent watching trashy Dutch TV for that. On the other other hand, I didn't feel quite comfortable jumping in. The next day I decamped for Deventer to hang out with my Oma and Opa. At this point I was worried that my Dutch was rustier than I had thought. My Oma and Opa's English is not all that, so I knew I'd actually need Dutch now. Fortunately, it turned out that I just needed a day to get going. I found I was able to use Dutch to:
The night before I left the Netherlands, I lost my phone on the bus and ended up going on this crazy adventure that involved heroic bus drivers, several transfers, panicked explanations, and a private bus ride home just for me. (Phone was found. God bless the city of Deventer.) And during all this stress and craziness... I solved the problem entirely through Dutch! I was probably proudest of this. While I am happy with what I could do with my Dutch, it became quite apparent over the course of the trip that my Dutch is not super. In fact, I would say that, at best, it is okay. I think my pronunciation is alright, and my grammar is usually fine, but my word choice and sentence structure is really simplistic. I would say I am probably on the level of an articulate Dutch 6-year-old. I think this is actually great though - it shows how much you can do with a language at an intermediate level, and what you can do is pretty amazing. I also noticed, once again, that how I use Dutch really varies depending on the social situation. In Utrecht, I'm constantly surrounded by young people my age who speak English, and I'll be lazy and go with that. I actually feel guilty speaking Dutch because I know it slows things down. But the further east I go, the less English is spoken. There, I feel 100% comfortable busting out my Dutch because I know it's welcome and helpful. I also feel more confident. Overall, I'm very happy with how things went. A bonus: while I was in Utrecht, I had the pleasure of meeting Tarvos. He is lovely in person! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Hekje Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4701 days ago 842 posts - 1330 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch Studies: French, Indonesian | Message 563 of 568 17 September 2014 at 2:33am | IP Logged | ||
Ah oké. Leuk, waar wonen ze dan? Ja, ik vind het ook grappig dat 'neef' allebei 'cousin' en 'nephew' betekent. Mijn ex- vriendje heeft altijd problemen met die woorden in het Engels. Het lijkt dat 'cousin' uit het Frans komt, toch? Of niet? Ben nu thuis, op dit moment zat van al het reizen en zo. :-P 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4288 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 564 of 568 17 September 2014 at 3:12am | IP Logged | ||
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Ik wilde je iets eens even vragen, kijk je naar het BNNprogramma's zoals
Try Before You Die, Sp&Sl, en Sp&Sl Op Reis? De laatste twee vol durf ik niet te schrijven, maar degenen die daarnaar kijken kennen ze. Ik leer me een heel deel uitdrukkingen uit deze programma's. Edited by 1e4e6 on 17 September 2014 at 5:50am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Hekje Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4701 days ago 842 posts - 1330 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch Studies: French, Indonesian | Message 565 of 568 17 September 2014 at 6:19am | IP Logged | ||
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Hahaha, nee, ik kijk niet naar Spuiten & Slikken. Wat een prachtige naam. Het lijkt me echter
wel leuk - dat en Try Before You Die. Heb je Slaapkamers dan ook bekeken? Ik heb het nooit zelf bekeken, maar het werd me aanbevolen. Het lijkt een beetje op je favoriete tv- programma's. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4288 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 566 of 568 17 September 2014 at 7:50am | IP Logged | ||
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Nee dat heb ik niet, maar ik wil meer programma's naar te kijken, ik merk dat er zoveel
gekke programma's op televisie in Nedelrand staan, zeker zou deze allemaal zeker in de VS en misschien in de VK en Australië verboden worden. Ik vind hen soms wat raar, maar altijd interessant. En daarna kijk of luister ik naar Nieuwsuur en NOS Journaal... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Vos Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5564 days ago 766 posts - 1020 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 567 of 568 17 September 2014 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Drie nieuwe programma's waar ik een blik op zal moeten werpen. Ik stel me voor dat je er wat interessant
taalgebruik van kon leren, zoals je al heb gezegd 1e4e6. Enige voorbeelden die je echt opviel? Ik had eigenlijk wat nieuwe programma's nodig dus dank jullie allebei wel voor de suggesties. Ja we hebben geen programma's over drugs en dergelijke hier in Australië, maar ze zouden hier zeker niet verboden worden. Eigenlijk maken we heel weinig programma's onszelf, dus het meerendeel van wat op televisie staat, komt van Amerika of Engeland (en pas het laatste jaar van Denemarken). Ik heb gemerkt dat veel Nederlandse programma's om gewone mensen en relaties en die soort dingen gaan, in plaats van ingewikkelde drama's en zo. Er bestaan een heleboel van. Betekent dat dat de Nederlanders vinden echte mensen met ware verhalen interessanter dan iets verzonnens? Redekunstige vraag, zoals altijd ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| plumbem! Groupie United States Joined 3631 days ago 44 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French | Message 568 of 568 28 December 2014 at 1:55am | IP Logged | ||
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I will have to find a very strange mood to look through your whole log and try and root out some good Dutch podcasts/TV but otherwise
I'm sorry for disappearing from team Dutch last year! My account got disabled when I tried to change my e-mail and I didn't think to make another. Also, please come back. Forum Death is so passe. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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