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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 129 of 522 10 April 2014 at 11:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I started planting the vocab from chapter 14 of the BCS textbook at Memrise today, but I haven't got very far yet. The first text in the chapter seems
to be a recipe and there are a lot of new words to learn. I didn't want to jump too far ahead with that chapter before I'd wrapped up the exercises in chapter 13, so on the train this morning I started reading the BCS grammar book instead. I had this for my birthday in November and read it through once before Christmas, which sort of blew my mind. I thought it might be a good idea to try reading it again, in small instalments this time. I didn't get very far today - only the introductory pages about alphabets and pronunciation. I felt inadequate when it told me it would be highly worthwhile to learn the order of letters in the Cyrillic alphabet by rote from the outset. I think I could make a stab at the first half of the alphabet, but the second half is definitely beyond me. I think I need to find a Serbian children's TV show featuring an alphabet song. This evening I watched the new Eurobox on DW Hrvatski, as I knew I wouldn't have time at the weekend. Topics included Gerhard Schröder's links to Putin, protests against corruption in Bulgaria, the bank in Siena and (I think!) a change to the law in Spain which means that street musicians need a licence to busk. I also tried listening to some of the radio clips on the website, as sometimes I feel like watching with pictures is cheating because you can guess a lot from the context. I listened to a broadcast from Radio Split which was predominantly about fish, and I kind of lost the will to live in the middle. I tried another one from Radio Rijeka which was more lively and had some discussion about food in Germany. Edited by Radioclare on 10 April 2014 at 11:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 130 of 522 11 April 2014 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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On the train to work this morning I continued reading the BCS grammar book and am now at the end of chapter 1. This covered gender,
pronouns, present tense conjugations and questions, so all pretty basic stuff but a refresher does no harm. Ideally I'd like to reread the entire book during April but not sure how realistic this is because I have family commitments this weekend and the four-day Easter holiday will be dominated (=ruined) by the British Esperanto Conference. Probably best if I don't get started on that. I was thinking that I should perhaps introduce a rule to my log that I'm only allowed to rant about the Esperanto movement if I do so in Croatian. Palo mi je na pamet da zapravo ne znam kako se kaže 'Esperanto' na hrvatskom. To jest, nisam znala da li se jezik zove samo 'Esperanto' kao na engleskom, ili ima li neko drugo ime. Pogledala sam internet-stranicu hrvatskog saveza za Esperanto da saznam i naučila sam da postoje barem jedan savez za Esperanto koji ima još goru internet-stranicu od britanskoga ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 131 of 522 12 April 2014 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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My mission for this morning was to try to find a Serbian alphabet song on Youtube. I failed completely, but I did succeed in finding a
Russian alphabet song which, while not being terribly useful for learning Serbian, will perhaps help me when I ultimately return to learning Russian. I continued planting the vocabulary from lesson 14 of the BCS textbook on Memrise but all the recipe words are new to me so it is taking a long time. I have also entered the vocabulary from lesson 15 into Memrise ready for planting. I was going to enter lesson 16 as well, but when I started flicking through the word lists they were so long that I decided I couldn't face it today! I think there is plenty to keep me busy in chapter 13, 14 and 15 for the time being. This afternoon I tackled the C exercises in chapter 13, specifically exercise C2 which required writing a paragraph on the theme "Što bih radila da imam vremena i novca?". I managed a few lines and have put them on Lang-8 in the hope of learning from corrections. EDIT: I'm a idiot who was searching for a Serbian alphabet song in English. Once it occurred to me to search in Serbian this evening, I found one straight away! Serbian alphabet song Edited by Radioclare on 12 April 2014 at 9:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 132 of 522 12 April 2014 at 10:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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There's also a GLOSS lesson dedicated to it.
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 133 of 522 13 April 2014 at 12:01am | IP Logged | ||
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Sorry for a stupid question but what is GLOSS and where
would I find it? When I tried googling I started getting lip gloss and gloss paint! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 134 of 522 13 April 2014 at 12:30am | IP Logged | ||
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| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 135 of 522 13 April 2014 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you to Serpent and Chung for pointing me in the direction of GLOSS! It looks great,
especially as it has both Serbian and Croatian. Today I watched the Serbian alphabet song a million times and I am pleased to report that I think I am getting the hang of it. I did the alphabet GLOSS lesson this evening and while the text about the history of the alphabet pushed my Serbian reading ability to the limit, I was happy that when it came to an exercise of rearranging the letters in the correct order I got it right. The letters I have struggled with most are ђ and ћ. The sentences I wrote at Lang-8 got corrected and there were only a few errors, none of which were to do with my use of the conditional so I was also pleased about that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian | Message 136 of 522 14 April 2014 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm still slowly working through my way through the vocabulary from chapter 14 on
Memrise. I think I've learned about 50 out of 128 words now. My favourite new word is 'dizati' (to raise), because it suddenly clicked for me this morning that this must be related to the word 'dizalo' (lift/elevator). The CroVoc website has been having an Easter competition where you have to try and find the 100 most searched-for words on their website, so I have managed to waste quite a bit of time doing that. Most of them were quite obvious but a few I was surprised by (eg. 'brojati' is apparently the 19th most popular search). I've had two different corrections to my conditional practice text at Lang-8, so I've rewritten it incorporating the feedback:
The most useful thing I have learned is that you can say 'putovati oko svijeta' but you ought to say 'putovati po Europi' and 'putovati po Hrvatskoj', ie. use 'po' to express the concept of travelling around. I don't think I have ever used the word 'po' in Croatian before because I am unfairly prejudiced against it by an inability to use the Esperanto word 'po' in anything approaching a correct manner. This evening I have finished the C exercises in chapter 13 (and there were some really useful practice sentences on the conditional) so now I am completely ready to move on to chapter 14. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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