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Cainntear
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Message 65 of 151

03 July 2009 at 2:35pm | IP Logged

The language of an individual or a small group (eg a family) is normally referred to as an idiolect. A dialect is, as previously stated, a form of language spoken by a particular social or geographical demographic.
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William Camden
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Message 66 of 151

03 July 2009 at 4:31pm | IP Logged

I think the subjunctive is dying out in spoken and even written English. I sometimes use it correctly in writing but sometimes I don't (even on this forum). When speaking, I don't use it correctly at all.
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babelpoint
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Message 67 of 151

03 July 2009 at 4:46pm | IP Logged

rayos wrote:

Not my native language, but sometimes Spanish people use the word "le" (indirect object) instead of "lo" (direct object). e.g.,

"Le mató" instead of "Lo mató"

I think it's accepted in Spain, but I don't know if it would be in Latin America.

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In Panama we say lo mató. This is just an explanation of my grammar book.

Leísmo:
Un tipo de leísmo es el que consiste en la utilización de los pronombres le y les por lo y los.
La RAE acepta el leísmo masculino de persona en singular pero condena el de animal o cosa. Ejemplos:

A Juan le vi al lado de Ana. -> A jual lo vi al lado de Ana.

* Al perro le mataron (se dice: al perro lo mataron)
* El lápiz le tiré (se dice: el lápiz lo tiré)

Estos leísmos son más frecuente en Madrid y en otras zonas del centro peninsular

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babelpoint
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Message 68 of 151

03 July 2009 at 4:52pm | IP Logged

Hi there:

Have you noticed that most all German infants say:

mit ohne alles! (with without anything)

instead of "ohne alles" (without anything)

VER
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anamsc
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Message 69 of 151

03 July 2009 at 4:52pm | IP Logged

KanadierThom wrote:

Calvino wrote:

[quote]...

I grind my teeth when people substitute the conjunction och ("and") for the
infinitive marker att, like in:

Jag gillar och läsa ("I like and read")

Which should really be:

Jag gillar att läsa ("I like to read")

...

People do that in Swedish too? Wow, I really thought that sort of construction was just
sloppy English. It seems really weird to see the same thing in another language. Well,
if it's not exactly the same it's at least similar to some things I hear in my own
language.

People do that in English? Cool! Where? I've never heard anything like that, but it sounds quite charming. I'd love to know where it's done.
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Message 70 of 151

03 July 2009 at 11:58pm | IP Logged

Cainntear wrote:

Wouldn't sociolect be the term for a social group? Just nit-picking. ;p

Adding another common mistake to stay on-topic:
What often annoys me, although it is not my native language, is the English mixing up of "they", "they're" and "their".

"Yes, their quite nice."

>.<
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Marc Frisch
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Message 71 of 151

04 July 2009 at 2:50pm | IP Logged

babelpoint wrote:

Have you noticed that most all German infants say:

mit ohne alles! (with without anything)

instead of "ohne alles" (without anything)

Yes, but they only do it to sound cute. They actually know better, those little bastards.
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zorglub
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Message 72 of 151

05 July 2009 at 1:04am | IP Logged

babelpoint wrote:

Hi there:

Have you noticed that most all German infants say:

mit ohne alles! (with without anything)

instead of "ohne alles" (without anything)

VER

"Most all German infants " ???
That has to be British humour !

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