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Michel1020
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 Message 9 of 353
10 July 2011 at 11:38am | IP Logged 
I just get some troubles.

I added a new french language for testing. I noticed only the last language created can be deleted.

I tried to add a first french text, La métamorphose from Kafka. I got a Words Total of zero and when trying to read - I did not see any text. I thought maybe the text is too long - so I tried with one of the 46 pages - then with the first paragraph - but the resutl did not change - Words Total zero and no reading possible. I also tried to add the text in the preexisting French language but got the same result.

I also noticed the french ' in qu' c' j' are not taken - those ' are not ponctuation but part of those words - the ' is never a ponctuation in french in stead we use "xxxx" or something looking like <<xxxx>>.

By the way On donne du sang mais on fait des dons de sang and il y a pas longtemps should be il n'y a pas longtemps.

I am sorry I do not publish on sourceforge forum because I am not registred there and I do not know where to post in bug or in help. But feel free to copy my remarks there.
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lwtproject
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 Message 10 of 353
10 July 2011 at 11:54am | IP Logged 
Michel1020 wrote:
I just get some troubles.

I added a new french language for testing. I noticed only the last language created can be deleted.


Languages can only be deleted if there are no words and texts in that language.

Michel1020 wrote:
I tried to add a first french text, La métamorphose from Kafka. I got a Words Total of
zero and when trying to read - I did not see any text. I thought maybe the
text is too long - so I tried with one of the 46 pages - then with the first paragraph - but the resutl did not
change - Words Total zero and no reading possible. I also tried to add the
text in the preexisting French language but got the same result.


Please make your texts not TOO LONG (max. 10 book pages).

Please send your current language settings for French and your text (first paragraph) to M8R-
rmip0s@mailinator.com -- I'll have a look at it. What server do you use? XAMPP Win/Mac or
other?

Michel1020 wrote:
I also noticed the french ' in qu' c' j' are not taken - those ' are not ponctuation but part of
those words - the ' is never a ponctuation in french in stead we use
"xxxx" or something looking like <<xxxx>>.


If you want to make ' a part of a word: please add ' in RegExp Word Characters. Maybe you must then also
replace different kinds of apostrophes in the texts to ':
try to set Character Substitutions: ´='|`='|’='|‘=' Otherwise you will have different kinds of ' in your
words/terms which may result in double entries...

Good luck.

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Edited by lwtproject on 10 July 2011 at 12:05pm

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lwtproject
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 Message 11 of 353
10 July 2011 at 11:57am | IP Logged 
The installation procedures for XAMPP and LWT are now explained in greater detail:

Windows: http://lwt.sourceforge.net/#installwin
Mac OS X: http://lwt.sourceforge.net/#installmac

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Edited by lwtproject on 10 July 2011 at 6:46pm

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lwtproject
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 Message 12 of 353
10 July 2011 at 12:09pm | IP Logged 
Michel1020 wrote:
By the way On donne du sang mais on fait des dons de sang and il y a pas longtemps
should be il n'y a pas longtemps.


The text is spoken French and is taken from http://bit.ly/nErdSb
In spoken French "ne", "n'" is very often omitted.
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tommus
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 Message 13 of 353
10 July 2011 at 5:47pm | IP Logged 
lwtproject wrote:
The installation procedures for XAMPP and LWT are now explained in greater detail:

Windows: http://t.co/4LhCvuG
Mac OS X: http://t.co/7xNbWy1

I think that quite a few potential users of LWT will be scared away by things that they are not familiar with and don't understand. For example, why use the strange URL http://t.co/4LhCvuG which immediately redirects to: http://lwt.sourceforge.net/#installwin?

The Upgrade instructions are confusing to me:

Step 1: Backup your database learning-with-texts with phpMyAdmin.

[Comment: This would be a good place to explain where to find and execute phpMyAdmin, and just how to do the required back-up. Most users have never done anything like this before.]

Step 2: Backup the directory .../xampp/htdocs/lwt/.

[Do you mean: Copy the directory lwt to another location.?]

Step 3: Unpack the downloaded ZIP archive lwt_version.zip.

Step 4: Copy the unpacked files and sub-directories to .../xampp/htdocs/lwt/,

BUT COPY NOT:

(1) the database connection parameters .../xampp/htdocs/lwt/connect.inc.php
and
(2) the media sub-directory .../xampp/htdocs/lwt/media.


[Comment]
What do you mean by "BUT COPY NOT"? Do you mean:

Step 3: ...

After unpacking these files, delete the file: lwt/connect.inc.php and lwt/media.

Then copy this new lwt directory to .../xampp/htdocs/

Is that what you mean?

Perhaps you should have two separate downloads: one for normal first-time installs, and a different one for upgrades from an earlier installation that does not contain the two files that you want to be deleted.

Thanks.

EDIT:

I just Upgraded from 0.6 to 0.7 using what I described above and it did not work. I tried copying my backed-up file connect.inc.php and the directory media to the new installed directory. That didn't work either. So I copied my entire back-up lwt back into the htdocs directory, and my version 0.6 is back in operation.

So just how do I upgrade from 0.6 to 0.7? Thanks.



Edited by tommus on 10 July 2011 at 6:12pm

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tommus
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 Message 14 of 353
10 July 2011 at 6:34pm | IP Logged 
Using version 0.6, I tried to import terms but could not. I tried TAB separation and then # separation. I only used two columns: word#translation. I get the error:

*** Error: Nothing to upload ***

What does "Don't import" mean? Do you put something in a column to ignore that entry?

Thanks.

EDIT:

I figured it out. If you try to enter only terms that are already in the database, you get the error *** Error: Nothing to upload ***. There probably should be a way to upload terms that are already in the database. For example, a better translation, or an added sentence, etc. Not a big deal though.






Edited by tommus on 10 July 2011 at 6:42pm

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lwtproject
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 Message 15 of 353
10 July 2011 at 6:53pm | IP Logged 
tommus wrote:
The Upgrade instructions are confusing to me


This will be improved in the near future.

Upgrading in 3 simple steps:
1. Unpack the ZIP archive.
2. Copy everything but NOT the whole "media" dir and NOT the file "connect.inc.php" into the web server "lwt"
directory.
3. Make database updates as explained.

Thank you for your patience.
By the way: Can somebody explain to me how to post links here?


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lwtproject
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 Message 16 of 353
10 July 2011 at 6:55pm | IP Logged 
tommus wrote:
I get the error:

*** Error: Nothing to upload ***


You figured it out already. Only terms that are NOT in the database are uploaded. The rest is ignored.

This will be changed in the near future (option to overwrite).


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