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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1073 of 1511 22 January 2014 at 10:09am | IP Logged | ||
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Eh, the letters you get used to... it's the words that are the real sting. You see, the
thing that is so damned annoying in Hebrew is not actually the letters - they are not harder than learning, say, the Greek or the Russian alphabet - but the fact that without Niqqud you are usually up shit creek without a paddle when trying to pronounce the word (also because some of the consonants may be either of their forms in the middle of the word if you talk about p/f, k/ch, b/v). Fortunately, a/i/o/u sometimes get substituted for with alef/ayin/vav/yod, but not nearly often enough. I can use and recognise them almost blindly, but that doesn't say anything about reading Hebrew because Hebrew is like a puzzle in this respect. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4356 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 1074 of 1511 22 January 2014 at 11:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for calling it as it is! I suppose it's practice, practice, practice...
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1075 of 1511 22 January 2014 at 11:16am | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah. That is part of the reason why it's so easy to speak compared to writing Hebrew - I
know how to say tons of words but I don't always know how to write them correctly, and then there's the bit that I can't guess a word immediately when I read it. You do get used to it eventually, and it's now not as slow as Korean for me, but still slow. Speaking of Hebrew, I bought the Hebrew edition of the Chamber of Secrets and will read that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1076 of 1511 22 January 2014 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Trebuie să lucrez mai mult la română... am nevoie de un discurs mai coerent și mai
limpede. Trebuie să mă opresc, stau pe loc și gândesc ce vreau să spun exact, păstra ordinea a cuvintelor... Ce gandești tu despre propoziție asta? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1077 of 1511 23 January 2014 at 11:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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I haven't been able to be very productive with languages in the past few days in terms
of studying textbooks, but I've been continuing classes and I have managed to do my daily Assimil Hebrew lesson - I'm nearly through the book, on lesson 77 of the passive wave now. (Hebrew only has 85). The downside of the book is it introduces a lot of useless vocabulary (the last lesson was a salad recipe), which is kind of annoying but I don't force myself to remember things like "cut up dill" so I don't. Water, salt, bread, falafel, even olives, sure... but diced cucumbers? I've also had a Hebrew class this morning - 30 minutes - which was better than usual. Better than Romanian yesterday which was horrible by my standards - I understood everything but nothing came out the way I wanted it to. However by anyone else's standards it'd still be pretty good given we discussed an article from Romania's version of Discovery Channel on education and physical exercise, a presentation on how teenagers are seen in the press (based on negative stereotypes), and revolutions in thinking in education (less traditional and classical pedagogy, more working together on practical problems, fostering personalization, critical thought and collaboration). One thing I like about my Romanian teacher (I finally found one I work well with) is that she forces me to have goddamn standards when I speak. She forces me to produce presentations that begin somewhere, explain something, and end somewhere (in decent Romanian). She forces me to read texts that are, by all means, pretty hard and will stump a beginner without problems. She forces me to summarise texts in my own words, short and sharp. In other words, I cannot get away with being lazy, which is very good and helps me to stay sharp - the problem is that my Romanian isn't my French, where I really have a bigger vocabulary, a bigger personal experience, and where winging it is much easier. In Romanian, I am teetering on that edge, and my vocabulary and pronunciation are good, but they don't compare to my French so it all sounds just a little bit off and awkward - though it gets the point across. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1078 of 1511 24 January 2014 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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Clicky to hear me speak awful Korean
I recorded this little snippet for team Gumiho. Unfortunately my Korean is still among the ranks of horrible, so forgive me... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1079 of 1511 24 January 2014 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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У тебя, наверное, русские корни или ты жил в России, я права?
I was literally asked this question today. I have won the battle with you, Russia. Go home. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Evita Tetraglot Senior Member Latvia learnlatvian.info Joined 6550 days ago 734 posts - 1036 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, German, Russian Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 1080 of 1511 24 January 2014 at 9:26pm | IP Logged | ||
No need to be so modest, your speaking is certainly understandable. Thanks for sharing. One thing I noticed is that you seem to have trouble with the 오 sound (but who doesn't, right?), you pronounced it as 어 in '그리고' both times. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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