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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5332 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 1377 of 1511 18 March 2015 at 12:05pm | IP Logged | ||
I know you did not mean to write communist - otherwise I would just have corrected it. The thing is that the word "kommunal" in Norwegian is strictly linked to an geographical-adminstrative unit - a kommune - and is not a synonym to communal. And from a Norwegian perspective the way they organize their lives in China has everything to do with Communism. So we would still probably use kommunistisk even if that was not what you had in mind. And yes :-) Obviously your Norwegian will be influenced by your Swedish, just like if I ever get to do any serious Ukrainian studies, it will obviously be heavily influenced by my Russian :-) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1378 of 1511 18 March 2015 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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There must be a better word for that - kommunistisk isn't the vibe I want. Perhaps
something with "dele"? The other problem is that when I speak Norwegian my accent is all over the place - I worked on my pronunciation specifically, so the most egregious swedicisms are out (but you will still notice the heavily Swedified intonation) and the other part is that my accent doesn't resemble the Oslo one - my teacher is from Alesund and therefore I tend to say things like ikkje, kva, and so on. (Not to mention that I actually want to learn Nynorsk, but it has no spellchecker on google chrome - urgh). The flipside to this entire story is that people think I'm a dumb Swede when in Norway, so I never get responded to in English. I exclusively get Norwegian responses. They can't tell I'm Dutch :p (A Swede could tell I am off when speaking Swedish, of course. But that deviation is also not very noticeable, though existent. In Swedeh I don't have problems with English responses either). Edited by tarvos on 18 March 2015 at 12:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1379 of 1511 19 March 2015 at 1:56am | IP Logged | ||
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A Song of Ice and Fire
A short review of the doorstopper series by George R. R. Martin, which I have mostly read in English but also partly in Swedish and German. In English, for a change (because it's the original and the language I read most of the books in). Be happy I threw you lot a bone so you can read my blog entry! Besides I've changed a bit of the blog anyway, pinned a different article on the top, marked a few blogs, and added "read more" tags to everything :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1380 of 1511 20 March 2015 at 1:22am | IP Logged | ||
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News on the Language Front
Because I can never sit still without learning a new language (I need the thrill), I've decided to start Italian for a bit and dabble with it - see how far I get. I actually have plans to visit at least Italian-speaking Switzerland over the summer for a few days, but it may be a necessary move for later - as you all know after China and my one-month summer holiday time which I will spend in Western Europe to see my friends and family on that part of the continent, I am going to Greece, but considering the economy is down the drain there it may be hard to work as an English teacher in Greece (although this would be my first choice). However I was informed that Spain and Italy were other options. I already have a bit of Spanish but I don't have much Italian if at all, so I need to rectify the Italian bit (and become a Romance language completist given that I speak French and Romanian fluently already and have basic Spanish and Portuguese). So tonight will be my first Italian lesson. Actually I will focus on the more formal grammar because reading comprehension is easy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 1381 of 1511 20 March 2015 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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In bocca al lupo, tarvos! I think you'll enjoy Italian. It's a very pleasant language IMHO.
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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4637 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 1382 of 1511 20 March 2015 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | ||
About "kommunistisk" and "kommunal", Solfrid Cristina is right, and I think a word you might use to convey your meaning is "kollektiv". In Norwegian this word can be used as a noun or an adjective, with the basic underlying meaning of sharing. So we talk about "kollektivtransport" - public transport, for example. As a substantive, "et kollektiv" indicates a group of people living together sharing all basic stuff such as food, furniture etc. It was a popular concept back in the 70s when there was a strong radical movement among young people, and Marx and Lenin were very much in vogue. But as indicated from my transport example, it is not a word that necessarily imply a communist ideology, simply the idea of something that is shared. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 1383 of 1511 20 March 2015 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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Tusen takk, det klarer opp noe saker, Ogrim.
Det er ikke et spørsmål om at Cristina tar fel. Det er kun slik at jeg hadde en annen mening i hodet enn hva hun trodde. Jeg skal alltid referere til norskmenn hvis det er snakk om talspråklige sak og ting. Apart from this, my Italian class was a success and I succeeded in speaking relatively normal Italian, with the exception that I occasionally missed a word and that my grammar is horrible (and my vocabulary is horribly reliant on imports if I don't know the proper Italian, but usually this gets the point across if I use some form of Espaliano or if I use a Romanian/French/Portuguese word that I pronounce in an Italian manner.) Edited by tarvos on 21 March 2015 at 9:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4519 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 1384 of 1511 20 March 2015 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | ||
Ålesund is great :) The majority of Norwegians don't speak with an Oslo accent, so I think you should be fine. It's annoying that Chrome doesn't include a nynorsk spellchecker, but there is actually one available for LibreOffice, you can write your texts there. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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