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zecchino1991
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 Message 57 of 426
27 January 2012 at 7:10am | IP Logged 
That's ok, thanks for trying! It's just confusing because a woman sings this, and she says "I love one too," so I
assumed she was talking about Georgia or something. Although it could just be that the one I listened to is
not the original. But I have no clue really. xD

Edited by zecchino1991 on 27 January 2012 at 7:11am

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TixhiiDon
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 Message 58 of 426
27 January 2012 at 7:32am | IP Logged 
Oh... That makes it a bit more interesting :)

EDIT: Ah! I totally messed it up! It's not You Should Only Love One Woman, but A Woman
Should Only Love One [Man].

The subject of the verb უყვარს is dative, so ქალს is the subject here.

I'm torn between being pleased at discovering the mistake and furious that I made it in
the first place.

Edited by TixhiiDon on 27 January 2012 at 7:37am

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zecchino1991
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 Message 59 of 426
27 January 2012 at 7:51am | IP Logged 
I made the same mistake at first, too! Then I figured it out and it made more sense, but I still don't really
understand much.
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 Message 60 of 426
27 January 2012 at 8:50pm | IP Logged 
I'll try to help you out. First of all "ქალს ერთი უნდა უყვარდეს" is a traditional mountain folk song with some examples of dialect, so no wonder you guys found its lyrics difficult to understand.


Quote:
ქალს ერთი უნდა უყვარდეს,
და არა მთელი ფარაო,
- მეც ერთი მიყვარს ამ ქვეყნად,
მიყვარს და არცა ვმალავო.


A woman should only love one [man] (you still got it right Tixhiidon :))
and not a whole herd.
I too love one in this world,
I do and I'm not hiding it.

Quote:
შენ დამიტირე ლამაზო,
შენი შავისა თვალითა,
- თუ ვერა გნახავ დავდნები,
როგორც მთის თოვლი ნამითა


Mourn over me beauty, (დატირება - to mourn over a dead person, დამიტირე - mourn over me)
with your black eyes,
If I don't see you, I'll melt,
like the dew melts mountain snow (again right Tixhiidon)

Quote:
დილით მზე ამოსულიყო
შენ ამაუსწარ წინაო,
- თუ ჩემი ნდობა არაა გაქვს,
ნეტავი მაცოდინაო.


The sun has risen in the morning,
you had risen before it (strong dialect here, standardized - შენ ამოუსწარი წინ)
If you don't have my trust
I wish I knew it.

Quote:
არც უკან დაგეწეოდი,
არც შეგვხვდებოდი წინაო. X2
ქალს ერთი უნდა უყვარდეს,
და არა მთელი ფარაო.


Neither would I chase you after,
nor would I meet you ahead.
Woman should only love one
and not a whole herd.

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zecchino1991
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 Message 61 of 426
27 January 2012 at 11:51pm | IP Logged 
Thank you! That makes sense that it's very dialectical. I even thought at first that maybe it's not even
Georgian, but something similar, haha..

What form of the verb is uyvardes? I'm gonna start figuring out how to use that kind of structure. Right now I
only know a couple simple verbal nouns.

And how can dew melt snow. o.O Doesn't make sense to me... but it sounds nice...:)
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 Message 62 of 426
27 January 2012 at 11:57pm | IP Logged 
Uyvardes is the optative, which you use after unda and SemiZlia and to say "let's" do something, and all
kinds of useful things like that. Kiziria covers it briefly towards the end of her book, but you need to pull out
your Aronson to get a full grasp of it.
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 Message 63 of 426
01 February 2012 at 6:49am | IP Logged 
So, I decided I am going to do Georgian for this month's 6 Week Challenge. There are
other languages I would like to do, but I am already trying to balance too many! So,
let's see how much I improve. :)
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zecchino1991
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 Message 64 of 426
01 February 2012 at 10:24pm | IP Logged 
So far today I have listened to the dialogues in Beginner's Georgian, numbers one through 8. I listened to
nine (the cafeteria) and I still understand most of it! I'm also listening to book2. I'm starting to get irritated by
the woman though... She talks sooooo slow. Also, the people sometimes have reading issues... For example,
one time the lady says that clouds are orange instead of grey. And the man says "we need pizza and
cigarettes" instead of pizza and spaghetti. Anyway, I will probably be listening to this a LOT like I did for
Arabic during the last six week challenge.

Now I just wish I had more materials. I'm gonna get sick of these dialogues eventually. So, does anyone
know of any other Georgian audio I can listen to? Like podcasts or something similar. I know there is the
peace corps thing, but other than that I'm not sure. Any suggestions?


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