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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4496 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 185 of 204 24 October 2012 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Even if they have "more talent" (wtf?) then they still applied it. Talent without
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4919 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 186 of 204 24 October 2012 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think the explanation's simpler than that. Benny travels, and has said a couple times that he follows the sun. He's also said many times that Brazil is his favorite place. This isn't the first time he's done a "mission" learning a language not spoken in the country he's visiting. He did it in Colombia. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6698 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 187 of 204 24 October 2012 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
While I think that a native Spaniard will find Italian easy, I'm not sure that all learners will find it helpful if two languages are related. Some will always mix them up. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| justonelanguage Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4251 days ago 98 posts - 128 votes Speaks: English, Spanish | Message 188 of 204 24 October 2012 at 10:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Really? I can't really argue with opinions like that.
Spanish is my only foreign language that I've studied in depth but I have a superficial understanding of Portuguese, which will hopefully be my second foreign tongue. If I just remember the main rules regarding similarities and differences between the two, I can understand a lot of words. Heck, the grammar and conjugations are very similar, even the subjunctive is very similar. Just looking at bbcbrasil (mind you, I only did like 2 months of "light" Portuguese study), I can literally read and get the entire gist of every article. There are false cognates, sure, but I can understand a lot of written Portuguese with mostly just Spanish knowledge. Yes, spoken Portuguese will be much harder than reading/writing because of the different sounds but the language discount will be immense. Yes, the fact that two languages are similar may trip me up, but it's a LOT easier than learning a language from a different language family like Japanese or Chinese. In a similar vein, let's say that I am a professional baseball player. Wouldn't it logically be easier for me to transition to...say, cricket than something like professional cycling? Both baseball and cricket have a lot of similarities, the fast-twitch muscle requirement, hand-eye-coordination, and the use of bats. Cycling requires a completely different body-type and muscle fiber requirements.
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| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6698 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 189 of 204 24 October 2012 at 11:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Of course, I know exactly what you mean (I've experienced the exact same thing with Spanish and Portuguese) and personally, I prefer seeing similarities rather than emphasizing differences whether it be languages/sports/musical instruments/whatever... However, at the same time there will be people who can't keep two related languages apart even if their life depended on it. I did Spanish and French at the same time in high school (no problem). Others kept mixing them up, all the time. I'm not suggesting that those would have succeeded better if they did German and Latin, but what you and I find helpful, might other people find confusing.
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| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4460 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 190 of 204 25 October 2012 at 1:13am | IP Logged | |||||
I didn't "burn him down, tear him down, rip him up or bully him". I answered Solfrid's Christian's question. I guess it was a trick question. You win again Solfrid :) Personally, I think the guy is awesome. But let's stay truthful, ok? And move the Benny stuff somewhere else please - this is a thread about a serious polyglot. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6492 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 191 of 204 25 October 2012 at 1:16am | IP Logged | |||||
If you are used to do it I can't see why you should stop just because you are interviewed for national television ... well, maybe I can't tell - it doesn't happen that often to me. But Tim seems to be quite unfazed by the situation, and the reporter Carolyn seems duly impressed. PS: and yes, let's not make this into one more thread about Benny. For some reason that usually ends in an acrimoneous quarrel. Edited by Iversen on 25 October 2012 at 1:20am 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Never Newbie Australia Joined 4270 days ago 5 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Afrikaans | Message 192 of 204 26 October 2012 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Tim doesn't sound sincere or even remotely genuine. Every time I come across clips of him on television shows or
YouTube videos, all I hear is "I want attention. Look at me everyone, I speak X amount of languages!" Of course many of you will disagree, and that's totally fine. I'm not looking to impose my opinion on anyone. However, he simply promises more than he can deliver. Benny is no different, though I perhaps have less tolerance because he's a grown man, not a teenager, and he shouldn't be making the mistakes Tim has and will continue to make. On top of that, Tim has an annoying nasally voice and this carries into the other languages he "speaks". 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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