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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4907 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 161 of 439 29 January 2014 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I love that the idea of getting stuck in traffic is now a positive thing! I remember
being very pleased to have to make a 5-hour (each way) drive last summer. On the way up I worked on FSI units 1-4 (for the first time ever), and several Pimsleur lessons. On the way down I listened to Assimil and some stories. Road trip = more language time! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 162 of 439 29 January 2014 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Norman Vincent Peale would be proud of us. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4907 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 163 of 439 29 January 2014 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Ha! I went to his church in NYC when I was a kid. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 164 of 439 29 January 2014 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
And I just visited NYC and saw the church. It's a small world after all. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 165 of 439 29 January 2014 at 4:00pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I posted this in the TAC thread, but maybe it belongs here...
I've been following 3 major tracks. 1) FSI/DLI drill track. This has been helpful, especially FSI. I'm into unit 5 of 24 now. I came up with an approach to make getting through FSI easier. That is, rather than perfect each unit one at a time until the end... Do this: a) Learn the dialogue. That's on tape 1 of each unit. b) Go on to tape 2, which is usually pretty easy. It has lexical drills (variations of phrases in the dialogue). c) Continue with tapes through the Grammar / Learning exercises. There are also meant to be fairly easy. d) Skip the Practice exercises if they are difficult. At least, don't spend the time to perfect them. e) Don't worry too much about drills you don't get down, unless they are "Learning" drills. (then only sweat it a little). f) Skip the Review drills. g) Move on to the next unit. Later, once you either finish the course or even the approach above becomes too difficult to continue, then go back and do it again, but include the Practices and Reviews. 2) Extensive track - This involves listen/reading or sometimes just listening to audiobooks. Some have been Le Petit Prince, Petit Nicolas, Le Sens du Bonheur du Krishnamurthi, La Puissance de votre subconscient, l'étranger, etc. On this track, I'm considering "easy" audiobooks or lectures that I haven't actually read. One tickling my fancy is Les Trois Mousquetaires. That would be something to listen to while working out. The challenge with a long novel though is that if the mind wanders too long, it detracts from the story. 3) Intensive track - Assimil. The goal is to learn the vocabulary and map the sounds to the words, etc. I've been lax at learning every word and reading the text at times, but I continue, and that's what matters. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4356 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 166 of 439 30 January 2014 at 9:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I have also been tempted to find shortcuts with FSI. It does stress however the importance of not moving on untill everything is learned and used automatically. We, on the other hand, having no teacher, have to use other courses as well, which makes the full FSI use seem like a waste of time. I guess there are no ideal situations. :)
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 167 of 439 31 January 2014 at 12:22am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I think not memorizing the dialog is a common shortcut we take. I don't feel too bad about that one. It takes a long time to memorize a dialog and the payoff isn't great.
I've looked ahead a few more units and I think I'll be putting my "go easy on the practice and review drills" theory to work. It's not such a stretch. A "survey" is frequently recommended before the deep dive. Edited by luke on 19 March 2014 at 7:52am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4907 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 168 of 439 31 January 2014 at 12:39pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I haven't found the practice and review drills to be that much of a chore. Except the
drills which gave increasingly large numbers, and the ones with dates (I can't remember which units, but somewhere around unit 5). Such as: 5 25 625 2,625 72,625 and so on. I just had a tough time remembering the number as it got longer. It about drove me crazy! But I think those sections are really good brain workouts, and recognizing long numbers and dates on the fly is actually a pretty important skill. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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