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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 377 of 432 26 April 2014 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | ||
The issue with producing an "official" classification is that we all need to agree on it. But there's huge variation, e.g. for Spanish, native speakers of English, Russian, Mandarin, French and Portuguese will all have different opinions about what counts as easy. Another factor is of course your tolerance for ambiguity (do you need to understand 90? is 50% okay? anything in between?), and then there's also your understanding of linguistics. However, be sure to check out the 2013 stats and see what people actually read. If something looks interesting, run a search or ask the member about it. If you're going to use the twitter bot, you can also follow other participants on twitter and see what they are reading. Edited by Serpent on 26 April 2014 at 4:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4906 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 378 of 432 26 April 2014 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | ||
Last time (if I remember correctly), we had a thread for each language represented in the challenge, for the purpose of sharing ideas, triumphs, problems, etc. I found the French thread to be very helpful, and I got a lot of good ideas for both watching and reading from the thread. I like the wiki idea, because it takes on a sort of permanence, but organising it could be quite difficult. As Serpent points out, opinions vary on things like ease, usefulness, etc. I think the simplest arrangement would be to have a reading page for each language, and a listening/watching page for each language. What an item actually is (e.g. podcast, audiobook, novel, BD, etc) could be listed first in the description. Resources on the page could be arranged by title (or maybe author) rather than by difficulty, but descriptions would explain details related to difficulty. For example "uses a variety of difficult tenses", is what I've heard about Le Petit Prince. "Generally uses common vocabulary, but occasionally has unusal idioms" would be in my description of Le Petit Nicolas. Desciptions would be more helpful than a difficulty level anyway. Although comments about the intended age group would probably be appropriate. For example, the back cover of my Le club des cinq books say that they are for "8-12 ans". Having said that, we as a group are used to making threads. Most of us have less experience editing wiki pages. But if there was a person willing to be a curator for each language, they could compile the material from Super Challenge language threads, and anyone could add further details. I have only ever edited a wiki page once, but I'd be willing to have a go at being the curator for the SC French language resource page. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mohave Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Mohave1 Joined 4004 days ago 291 posts - 444 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 379 of 432 26 April 2014 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | ||
I agree with having something like this. I started a thread, Super Challenge Free and Legal Books. just as the website went down trying to capture the various (legal) resources out there. I found several older threads that I included as links that, in my opinion, should have been made a stickie (perhaps a link from the wiki as well) that our rich in resources. I'd be glad to continue to add/edit this thread until a more permanent solution is reached. Link: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/ forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38575&PN=1&TPN=1#497692 Edited by Mohave on 26 April 2014 at 7:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4906 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 380 of 432 26 April 2014 at 6:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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I found the resources thread from the last Super Challenge. It was one thread for all languages, not a separate thread for each language.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 381 of 432 26 April 2014 at 7:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah it's linked on the wikia page I posted above :P
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| Emily96 Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4425 days ago 270 posts - 342 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Finnish, Latin | Message 382 of 432 26 April 2014 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was one of those people that said I was looking forward to other people's recommendations, and the thread Jeffers
linked to is exactly what i was referring to. Putting something on the wiki would be great though, and would save picking things out from a long thread (and waiting for every page to load! the forum is so slow for me today.) I'll definitely contribute to that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4906 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 383 of 432 26 April 2014 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm just wondering if we should start a new recommendations thread. Mohave's list is useful, but limited to free resources. Old links such as Serpent points us to have their use, but the point of a thread is current discussion.
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| BAnna Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4619 days ago 409 posts - 616 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Turkish | Message 384 of 432 26 April 2014 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ok, well, putting my money where my mouth is, I just pulled recommendations off the recommendation thread from Jeffers. The hardest part was actually waiting for the thread pages to load and getting an error, but it was pretty easy to build some simple tables in the wikia itself.
And made a generic "these are good in any language" one for things like Harry Potter, Agatha Christie, etc. (but maybe these don't need mention). I did find on the wikia a lists of TV series and a list of books with unabridged audiobooks. Let me know what you think... I am willing to take on building a page for the various languages (once they are all listed), but the content would have to come from all of you, so it needs to be super easy to use. It's all here somewhere on the forum, but digging for it can be difficult. Multilanguage Wikia: SC recommendations in Spanish French Polish German Dutch Chinese Latin Japanese English Russian Norwegian Korean Esperanto Romanian Italian Edited by BAnna on 27 April 2014 at 2:33am 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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