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| Ninibo Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 4014 days ago 88 posts - 116 votes  Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 193 of 266 28 February 2014 at 8:38pm | IP Logged |
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@Expugnator
Have you tried the New Practical Chinese Reader Series? I think after Volume 3 they are billed as intermediate. The only other intermediate Textbook i know would be Integrated Chinese, i think Level 2 is intermediate. That said, i have only used the beginner versions of these books, but liked them very much, unless they drastically change their format for intermediate they should also be suited for self-study. The ones i personally used at that level were the Boya textbooks, but i think those lack a full translation for the texts. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 194 of 266 28 February 2014 at 8:46pm | IP Logged |
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The problem is they do that :/ At intermediate levels we get longer texts, no pinyin.
I went up to NPCR 2, but it does slow me down. No translation, no pinyins, I have to hear the unknown words so I can search them. Not to mention the texts with no audio. Integrated Chinese is more or less the same, and it uses traditional characters (at least the one I got). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Ninibo Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 4014 days ago 88 posts - 116 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 195 of 266 28 February 2014 at 9:03pm | IP Logged |
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Oh, sorry, i didn't think they's be that different.. Boya is definitely mostly Chinese..
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| Silbermond Diglot Groupie United Kingdom xuexisprachen.wordprRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4354 days ago 64 posts - 79 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Mandarin, Italian, Spanish | Message 196 of 266 28 February 2014 at 11:15pm | IP Logged |
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@Expungnator Speak Chinese is pretty good and has the tone marks over the characters but no pinyin (except new words) and no full translations for the text as far as I can see... Volume 2 is the same in terms of tone marks, but again it doesn't have the translations/pinyin so I don't know if they'll be useful for you?
I had forgotten entirely about the February challenge until a couple of days ago and found a really nice song... only to find that pretty much all the videos have an English translation on them! (And they're good...) The song is here and is called 为爱而活, but yeah, I've decided to pick the second task if it is still a second task? (I see you all doing your awesome translations out there; this is what I get for leaving it so late I suppose...) So yes, characters. I think my favourite character is 应 (yīng) from 应该 (yīnggāi - should) because it looks like it has a tiny sort of smiley face in it (and I clearly take what entertainment I can get :P). But yeah, that's how I first learnt to write it; I looked at it and saw a smiley face. It helps that I use it loads at uni as well, so it's one of those that's stuck quite well. (Though we started with 应该 together all the time so sometimes if I see 应 or 该 separately I get a bit confused with the pronunciation.) My least favourite character is either 赢 (yíng - win; beat) or 入 (rù - go into; join). 赢 because, well, look at it. I don't do traditional characters and this is one of the ones that seems to take up three times as much space when I write it. 入 just because it looks a bit like 人 (rén - person) and I get it mixed up every time. Is anyone else surprised that it's pretty much almost March already, by the way? I swear 2014 is racing by... Edited by Silbermond on 28 February 2014 at 11:33pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5863 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 197 of 266 28 February 2014 at 11:53pm | IP Logged |
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I used NPCR up to NPCR 4 and found it really great. I've heard mixed reviews about NPCR 5 and 6 so i've been a bit hesitant to pick them up. I found in the later books i really didn't need the pinyin and actually appreciated it not being there. That way i knew i was reading the characters and not the pinyin.
What i did was listen to the lesson once without looking at the text. Then i studied the new words. Once i'd looked all the new words over i listened to the text again while reading along. Then i did another quick pass of the new words before reading the text without the audio, just looking at the characters. Silbermond, that's how i remembered how to write 高兴, because 兴 looks like a smiley face to me :) I also thought that whoever came up with the character for "lazy" had a bad case of "幸灾乐祸", what lazy person would ever take the time to write out "懒"? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5830 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 198 of 266 01 March 2014 at 12:27am | IP Logged |
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@ Expugnator Surely if you're at an intermediate level you shouldn't need to rely on the
pinyin, other than for new words in the vocab lists. How will you ever progress to native material? I'm looking forward to finishing NCPR any day now and getting rid of the pinyin crutch when moving on to volume 2. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 DavidStyles Octoglot Pro Member United Kingdom Joined 3939 days ago 82 posts - 179 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Latin, French, Portuguese, Norwegian Studies: Mandarin, Russian, Swedish, Danish, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) Personal Language Map | Message 199 of 266 01 March 2014 at 12:58am | IP Logged |
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If this team is still taking entries, I'll make a log accordingly, and dutifully translate a song to catch up. Meanwhile, I'd like to offer an introduction:
我的名字是大卫唱针。通过专业，我是一个语 言的导师。我教：英文，法文，西班牙文，意 大利文，德语和拉丁文。我的母语是英文。当 然，我需要学习：中文，俄文，和阿拉伯文。 我也想学好：瑞典文，挪威文，和丹麦文。 关于我的家人，我有一个妻子和一个儿子。我 们也有一只猫和一条蛇。我喜欢武术，和西洋 棋。我也很喜欢烹饪和旅游。 我学习中国普通话。我目前不知道很多事情。 我可以在一个简单的方式进行通讯。我会提高 。 Note on translation of my name: I went with "大卫" as a researched recommended phonetic rendering of David - if someone knows if there's a better rendering, that's great. As for Styles, I went with a semantic rendering. I found various options for "Styles" that were unsatisfactory, so went for the deeper meaning - my name itself has historically more to do with the writing implement, the stylus, so I went with "唱针", which also sounds pleasing to the ear. Hopefully it works as I intend it. Edited by DavidStyles on 01 March 2014 at 12:59am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| proudft Senior Member United States Joined 5151 days ago 124 posts - 156 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin | Message 200 of 266 01 March 2014 at 1:20am | IP Logged |
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The David in NPCR goes by 大为 (dàwéi), but I don't know if that's because they're trying to keep the 'new' character count down or not. Edited by proudft on 01 March 2014 at 1:21am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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