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fiziwig
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 Message 497 of 713
15 May 2012 at 8:00pm | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
At the risk of being accused of being a chicken...

I must admit that I had underestimated the time it would take to read a book at our level. (About 40 hours for 250 pages in my case)---

So my question to all you esteemed members of the Super Challenge is the following:

Should we consider counting every 100 pages as one book? So that if we read 450 pages, it counts as 4 1/2 book, and not just one?
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And 10 000 pages is still quite impressive, right?



Sounds reasonable to me. Of the three books I've read, two were barely over 100 pages, but one was 380 pages, and the one I'm working on now is 250. There's a BIG difference between a 100 page book and a 380 page book! And I found one book in Spanish at the thrift store that's over 900 pages!
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 Message 498 of 713
15 May 2012 at 9:17pm | IP Logged 
I think it will be a pretty simple change. For a 350 page book people can just log
something like #book "Peter Rabbit 1/3"; "Peter Rabbit 2/3"; "Peter Rabbit 3/3."   I'm
not sure how you would log the final half book, or how the twitter algorithm would
handle it. It might be easier to just look at completed chunks (so the 350 page book
would be three books, not 3.5 books).

10,000 pages is still about 120 pages a week, which is a lot if one is at the B1 level,
and reading at the B1+ level!     

Though I'm biased. I like reading bigger books, and it will be more satisfying to be
able to log each chunk rather than having to wait a month or two for each post.




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surrealix
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 Message 499 of 713
15 May 2012 at 11:53pm | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
When I then looked at my Twilight book in Russian, which is about 450 pages, and which according to the rules I have
set myself, would only count as one book, my heart sank.

I'm currently reading a book that's 498 pages. I had the passing thought that I should glue in a couple of extra pages from another book just
to push it over that 500 limit (plus, it's turned out to be an especially boring book, so maybe it would have improved the story!).

I'm all for counting pages as suggested. If I read 120 pages, it feels good to count it as 1.2 books.

Solfrid Cristin wrote:
The negative aspect is that we would have to change the rules after just two weeks, and there would have to be made
changes to the bot

This is where I put on my developer hat to say that changing the twitter bot to fit the new rules is a 5-minute job, if that. The bigger issue
will be that people who have sumbitted books will have to remember/notice and go back to add page numbers to them if they want them split up.
(Although it's optional - a #book without a page count would just count as 100 pages).

Just give the word and I can make the changes.

kanewai wrote:
I'm not sure how you would log the final half book, or how the twitter algorithm would
handle it. It might be easier to just look at completed chunks (so the 350 page book would be three books,
not 3.5 books).

I don't see that the twitter algorithm would need much tweaking at all. It almost works on this system already (except for that it counts
books at 250 instead of 100). If you're reading peter rabbit, you could write:

Quote:

@langchallenge Last week I #read 50 pages of "Peter Rabbit" (this would get logged as 0.5 books)
@langchallenge Yesterday I #read 150 pages of "Peter Rabbit" (now we're up to 2 books)
@langchallenge Today I finished #reading the last 150 pages of "Peter Rabbit" (now we're up to 3.5 books, or 350 pages)

If you're lazy and read an average sized book, you could still write:
Quote:

@langchallenge #book "Winnie-the-Pooh" (we add one book to our total, so that's 4.5 books, or 450 pages)

If people use the same title every time they report an update, we can even start tracking how long it takes to read each book (so you can see
how you speed up over time) and other interesting things like that.
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 500 of 713
16 May 2012 at 12:09am | IP Logged 
Since everyone seems to be in favour of counting 100 pages as a book - and Surrealix says it is not too much work for him - I'll say let's do it!


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Brun Ugle
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 Message 501 of 713
16 May 2012 at 8:26am | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
Since everyone seems to be in favour of counting 100 pages as a book - and Surrealix says it is not too much work for him - I'll say let's do it!



And here I've been reading 4-5 hours a day to make sure I can complete 250 pages every 6 days. (I like to read books that are actually a little too hard in order to push myself to get better.)

Of course, it might be hard to do once I get back to working full time. So I guess I'll go along with the crowd. Fortunately, I have entered page counts for what I've done so far.

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 Message 502 of 713
16 May 2012 at 8:30am | IP Logged 
Brun Ugle wrote:
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
Since everyone seems to be in favour of counting 100 pages
as a book - and Surrealix says it is not too much work for him - I'll say let's do it!



And here I've been reading 4-5 hours a day to make sure I can complete 250 pages every 6 days. (I like to
read books that are actually a little too hard in order to push myself to get better.)

Of course, it might be hard to do once I get back to working full time. So I guess I'll go along with the
crowd. Fortunately, I have entered page counts for what I've done so far.


Nothing is lost:-) This just makes it a bit more feasible, and hopefully more motivating.
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 Message 503 of 713
16 May 2012 at 10:51am | IP Logged 
YAY!
Feature request: can there be a tag for half-books? Rather than adding 50 pages to the total it would be good to add 0.5 to the book count.


Solfrid Cristin wrote:
When I then looked at my Twilight book in Russian, which is about 450 pages, and which according to the rules I have set myself, would only count as one book, my heart sank.
Haha I felt the same when I got HP3 in Polish!
Makes sense in terms of LR/audiobooks btw. If an audiobook counts as several movies it's only fair that the book counts as a few books.


Also, if you just count pages it makes it more motivating, like with tadoku. You can register every 10 pages rather than wait till you finish reading.

(though there's also the downside that you have to remember where you've stopped). Another feature request: can there be a way to #finish the book? just stating total pages and combining the previous entries with the same name.

Edited by Serpent on 16 May 2012 at 11:11am

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surrealix
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 Message 504 of 713
16 May 2012 at 11:05am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
YAY!
Feature request: can there be a tag for half-books? Rather than adding 50 pages to the
total it would be good to add 0.5 to the book count.


I'm not entirely sure what you mean here - adding 50 pages is the same as adding 0.5
books, and adding 0.5 books is the same as adding 50 pages. Of course I could add a
#halfbook tag that's shorthand for #book 50 pages, but it would just be for
convenience, because it doesn't change the way anything works.




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