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| bramsterdam Bilingual Hexaglot Senior Member NetherlandsRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5238 days ago 106 posts - 113 votes  Speaks: Dutch, French*, English*, German, Spanish, Russian | Message 177 of 200 02 August 2010 at 12:01am | IP Logged |
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Good to see you´re still here!
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| Strongman Diglot Newbie Australia Joined 5513 days ago 8 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English*, Swedish Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 178 of 200 06 August 2010 at 5:54am | IP Logged |
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Such negativity! You seem to be understating your abilities somewhat and only focusing on the areas in which you have regressed.
I feel obliged to post now because I felt rather similar yesterday after an encounter with a Russian speaker made me realize just how little of my passive vocabulary I could actively use. I can only say cheer up! What you have learnt will still be there (in some vague shape or form) when you feel up to studying more intensively again. If you need a break enjoy it without guilt and return later when those reasons which first motivated you begin to burn once more. PS. You are not allowed to ignore Russian completely, as reading your comments on it here has been of great help to me while I slowly struggle with it myself :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5281 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 179 of 200 07 August 2010 at 10:57am | IP Logged |
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Thanks guys! I wasn't understating my abilities, only saying that I completely stopped working. I know I'm capable of learning new languages, but I need more real-life incentive, I need to need those new languages, and right now I don't. I'm sure I'll get my motivation back at some point, after all, it's the holidays right now!
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| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5281 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 180 of 200 12 October 2010 at 1:53pm | IP Logged |
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Hi everyone. With the start of the new school and TV years I started watching Aguila Roja and other Spanish shows again, but I'm afraid I still haven made myself work on Russian. When I think about Russian now, I can see that I'm forgetting a lot of it, but honestly this year I won't be able to put as much work into it as I should, so I figured I'll just get to it whenever I'm done with Spanish ,i.e. whenever I get to a fluent level in active Spanish, which will only happen if I spend a coupld of weeks at least in Spain, and I really don't know when I'll be able to do that. It looks like my studies aren't going to leave me much time for more languages so I'll just keep watching what I like in Spanish and maybe reading a little, but I'm not near a level where I can do that in Russian, so I'll leave it aside for a while.
I think I must have watched each episode of Aguila twice, plus about 5-6 episodes of Redes, so let's say 12 hours of Spanish TV, plus about 2 hours reading random things = 14 hours. I ordered the last book of the Allende trilogy, El Bosque de los pigmeos, and a Vargas Llosa, La guerra del fin del mundo, in a bilingual edition mostly because it was all they had on Amazon.fr but I mightactualy need it, as it's going to be my big jump into adult literature. I also found a new site for all sorts of TV channels all around the world: http://wwitv.com/portal.htm I haven't used it or even tried to access the individual channels yet, but I'll try it soona and tell you what I think. Finally, great news: I've had my first case of wanting to say something in Spanish because an exact equivalent doesn't exist (or come to me) either in English or French: I as writing the previous sentence and wanted to say I hadn't yet "aprovechado" that site. So yeah :D. I also feel much better now I've decided to let go of Russian and just have some passive fun with Spanish. Total: 177 Russian 139 Spanish Edited by joanthemaid on 20 October 2010 at 12:37am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5281 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 181 of 200 20 October 2010 at 12:47am | IP Logged |
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Sigo mirando Aguila Roja en la pagina web de RTVE. A llegaado el ultimo libro de la serie de las aventuras del Aguila y del Jaguar de Isabel Allende -- parece que todo lo que sigo en espanol tiene que haber un Aguila. El titulo de ese libro es "El Bosque de los Pigmeos". Al momento solo ha leido dos capitulos, porque empezando con nueva obra tengo que familiarizarme con el nuevo vocabulario, particularmente lo que trata de Africa, porque cada uno de esos libros ocurre en diferenta parte del mundo con diferenta base de vocabulario especifico. Pero en un moment voy a empezar a leer sin diccionario y esto serà mucho mas rapido.
Total: 177 horas de ruso 132 de espanol (Gracias por coregir mi gramatica o vocabulario, tengo cuenta de que mi ortografia es mala, partirculamente con los acentos y letras especiales, porque estoy demasiado perezosa para corregirlos con mi claviatura francés. Los siento, entiendo que debe parecer horrible por los espanoles. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5281 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 182 of 200 28 October 2010 at 7:14pm | IP Logged |
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Todavia no ha acabado con El Bosque de los pigmeos,de hecho apenas le a empezado: ha leido los primeros dos capitulos dos tiempos buscando el vocabulario que no entendia o conocia en el diccionario y después trantado de recordarle. Al tercer capitulo decidi que ya era basta y no volveria al diccionario por una palabra si entendia lo que estaba occurienda. Pero estaba en mi casa y parecia làstima dejar todas esas palabras nueva, asi que aunque quiero leer por el placer y no para aprender vocabulario, quando empezo a buscar palabras no puedo parar de hacerlo y ya no confia en mi o mi capacidad de adivinarlas.Quizas puedo volver al libro en el tren cuando vuelvo a la universidad.
"La guerra del fin del mundo" fue enviado y deberia llegar de amazon el 2 de noviembre. Entonces veremos si de verdad puedo leer y entender literatura en espanol y con cuales dificultades. Hoy navegando el sitio de RTVE encontré un episodio de una serie que no conocia: El Clon. Me parece un poco tonto, como un soap opera, auque pienso que la idea de hacer una serie sobre un clon es bueno. Quizas estuviera mejor si era comica. Porque no la historia de un joven, un adolescente que debe enfrentarse a los problemas normales de la adolesciencia y tambien al hecho de que es un clon? Pero la serie toma un camino de drama sentimental, con hermanos muertos cuyas novias acaban mariendo sus hermanos, lo cual estaba enamorado de una muchacha marrueca que fue mariada de fuerza a un marrueco rico. En el mismo tiempo una mujer està esperando un bebe, pero no sabe que es un clon porque su doctor le ha mentido y usado por uno experimento illegal... Ya veis! Tambien segui el nuevo episodio de Aguila y de Redes, que me defraudo un poquito. Parece que la nueva temporada es màs practica y màs vulgarizada, pero el contenido sientifico no me parece tan interesante como antes. Total: 177 horas de ruso 137.5 de espanol Muchas gracias por sus comentarios y a la proxima semana! Edited by joanthemaid on 18 November 2010 at 8:20am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5281 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 183 of 200 18 November 2010 at 8:33am | IP Logged |
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He acabado con el Bosque de los pigmeos y empezado "La guerra del fin de mundo", que contiene mucho vocabulario dificil, pero no me impede la comprehension demasiado, y medio no es espanol sino portugues. Las palabras que no entiendo son nombres de profesiones, de la flora/fauna y tambien unas pocas palabras mas importantes para la comprehension, pero despues de buscarlas son las mismas que volven asi que ya podria continuar con el libro sin diccionario. Pero pienso que voy a leer las primeras 100 paginas para memorizar el vocabulario, y entonce no volveré ni a tocar el diccionario.
Tambien ha hablado espanol por primera vez (pero con un chico Italiano, quese fue en espana con Erasmus y habla muy bien). Soy capaz de comunicarme con fluidez en espanol, aunque con muchas faltas, particularmente de conjugacion. El subjontivo se quede un misterio para mi, y tampoco recordé muy bien las conjugaciones plurales del pasado simple, al menos no con bastante rapidez para utilizarles con fluidez. Possiblemente aqui esta el problema apprendiendo sin professor ni programa, es que entiendo el idioma pero, como dicemos en Francés, "hablo como un vaca espanola", una expression que no tiene mucho sentido el idioma de que se trata es el espanol, vale? Pues, esos son los ultimos desarollos en mi aprendizaje. Buena suerte y hasta luego! Ruso: 177 horas espanol: 160 horas Edited by joanthemaid on 18 November 2010 at 8:35am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5281 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 184 of 200 18 November 2010 at 8:44am | IP Logged |
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I was wondering if I should replace Russian with English (and French?). I really thought I was done with those two, but as it turns out I'm now studying medical and health translation, and the medical language is a tongue all of its own, with even cultural elements and everything. Anyway it's a good thing I gave up on Russian for now, because there's no way I would have time to study it and finish my master's degree this year. As for Spanish, I read on the train, so that's all right. I'm going to try to finish "La guerra del fin del mundo" by Christmas, but there's an chance it will last me all the way until March. On its own, that book is as long as everything else I've ever read in Spainsh (more than 900 pages).
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