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| dantalian Diglot Senior Member Bouvet Island Joined 5492 days ago 125 posts - 156 votes  Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 57 of 200 04 February 2010 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | ||
Hi Joanthemaid, Yeah, declensions are very difficult and there are lots of exceptions from the rules. Sometimes scholars identify up to seven additional (not published in textbooks) noun cases to encompass all of them. Verb aspects are very important either. However you should not panic. Malik Fathi, a German football player of Turkish origin, managed to learn Russian in two years. Why shouldn't you follow suit. BTW, I can't imagine him cramming tons of wordlists, etc :))Anyway, feel free to ask me any questions about Russian. You are welcome! I'm still learning English and this forum is a part of my "exposure program". I'm going to learn up to 10000 new English words to become a bit more fluent by the end of the year. However it is still beyond me to start a log in English :)) Feel free to correct my mistakes, if any, by the way. Удачи в изучении русского языка! ;) Edited by dantalian on 04 February 2010 at 6:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5280 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 58 of 200 04 February 2010 at 9:47pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks, good luck to you too!
I can only see one mistake in your post: "Verb aspects are very important TOO". You can't use "either" in an affirmative sentence, only in a negative one. Yeah, now football players learn languages faster than me, and without even cramming! I feel soo much better! Don't worry, I know you didn't mean it like that... Just pulling your leg! And by the way, your English seems easily good enough to me to start a log of your own. As far as I can tell, it's excellent! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5280 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 59 of 200 04 February 2010 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Today I mostly caught up on my late Anki stuff, listened to a tiny little bit of Spanish and started listening to and learning 2/4 dialogues from Princeton, lesson 23. Yeah I know, but I didn't have my computer for most of the day, and I also reviewed other Princeton lessons, which I'm happy to say I have no trouble understanding (and when I first listened to them, I had a lot of trouble understanding!). Plus a little bit of song learning on the bus. Anyway, today: 1.5 hour Spanish 1.5 hour Russian Total: 43.5 hours Spanish 71.5 Russian Edited by joanthemaid on 12 April 2010 at 2:59pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dantalian Diglot Senior Member Bouvet Island Joined 5492 days ago 125 posts - 156 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 60 of 200 05 February 2010 at 1:46am | IP Logged | ||
Sorry again, Joanthemaid. A truce to jesting! :)) I seem to have failed to produce good humor in English. I try to stop joking for the time being. As to my English, I’m not happy with it at all. My sentences are still as short and ugly as sin.:)) By the by, I personally have learnt most of my vocabulary spending long hours with LearnWords and Anki, so I’m no way better than you in this respect. Only kickers can avoid cramming :)) Thanks for your corrections; I should revise grammar a bit. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Icaria909 Senior Member United States Joined 5401 days ago 201 posts - 346 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 61 of 200 05 February 2010 at 3:39am | IP Logged | ||
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Great job with your studying Joanthemaid. At the rate you're going you'll know russian faster than the football player.
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| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5280 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 62 of 200 05 February 2010 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hope so... I'm sure you will, too!
By the by, you guys might have noticed that I'm spending more time studying Russian than Spanish. This is on purpose. I actually want to get to about 2/3 Russian, 1/3 Spanish, that is, twice as much Russian as Spanish! It's weird though, because I tried to record myself speaking both languages, and I realised that as far as basic things like introducing yourself and such goes, Russian comes to me more naturally than Spanish! So yeah... Not to say that I'm good at Russian, it's just that my Spanish production sucks. Understanding more that you can say is normal, but this doesn't bode well for my summer trip. So I might go back and work through more basic stuff in Spanish, with that goal in mind of enhancing my production, not my comprehension. I'll get back to you with that. 5:47 and today I have: - learnt one more couplet of "Dve Voini" - Reviewed one lesson in "Je parle Russe" Yeah... Edited by joanthemaid on 06 February 2010 at 10:21am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5280 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 63 of 200 06 February 2010 at 12:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, I didn't do too badly today, after all. I did one lesson of the Princeton course (well, three quarters of one, really, as I'd already started), plus I listened a while to random Russian, in which I clearly understand more words than I used to. I'd say I'm still under ten percent though, not counting tiny little words like "B" or such. Anyway, pacienca es la clave. Plus a bit of reviewing grammar (definitely late on the grammar book, and on a pretty tight schedule for Princeton, ahem).
In Spanish I listened to a very basic (beginner level) LingQ lesson, like, "conociendo a alguien, parte 1" and input sentences into Anki. It's very basic, but let's face it, I must have skipped this part altogether, even in my high school learning, because although some phrases were pretty obvious, some turns of phrase were completely unknown to me. So, on the one hand I feel bad about going back to basics, but on the other I can see myself talking to Spanish people, introducing myself and all that, and suddenly it's much clearer why I'm learning it. So, today: 3.5 hours Russian 2 hours Spanish Total:45.5 hours Spanish 75 hours Russian (I don't nearly feel like I'm twenty percent done, though, so I think it's going to take more than 220 hours) Edited by joanthemaid on 06 February 2010 at 10:23am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachjunge Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6975 days ago 368 posts - 548 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC2 Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 64 of 200 06 February 2010 at 11:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah for back to basics! I had a similar feeling with Manual de gramática, which I just started. I was like: "Sprachjunge, you've been learning Spanish for over seven years. How were you unaware of this the entire time?" Anyhow, good job and keep it up! I'll stop saying it for a while so that you'll actually believe me, but it's really inspiring to know that we're all in this together, juggling our lives and this burning passion that we somehow have to learn how our fellow humans speak. Yeah, Team Gordo. :)
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