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| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 161 of 430 30 April 2008 at 8:35am | IP Logged | |||||
And with that I will feed the troll no more. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 162 of 430 30 April 2008 at 10:42am | IP Logged | |||||
I can understand your frustration with Korean, but spending time writing in English, won't help your goal. TIME is the most important factor in learning Korean, don't waste your time writing here and go to study and live Korean right know. Treat yourself and do Korean. As it happens, writing here I am practicing one of my target languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6858 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 163 of 430 30 April 2008 at 11:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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I haven't read all of this thread, it's true, but I've skimmed quite a bit with it, and I can't find a single thing that Slucido's said, aside from when he might have been losing his cool (forums are great places for keeping score of this, unfortunately), that is remotely controversial or hard to grasp.
It's like, people argue with him, but then say the same thing, in their own way. I really agree that if you love doing something, you stick with it, and you improve. I have many more interests than learning languages, and 100% of the time it is true that when someone loves what they do, they excel at it. I've never met anyone who hasn't. Maybe they're not the "best" compared to other people, but that is irrelevent. They just keep doing it, they get better and better at it. I know someone's going to say, "Yes, but what if their training methods are completely wrong." That's an objective opinion. I know someone who raced and trained with Greg Lemond, the three-time Tour de France winner. He outtrained everybody. When the training ride was over, he'd continue on his own. Experts might say that would lead to over-training, but he had the passion to keep doing it that way, and look at his successes. Who's going to argue against that? Likewise, I know bike racers who have limited amounts of time to train, so they make the best with the time that they have, and they still excel, because they've found a system that works well with what they've got. No two top cyclists in the world (cycling's my sport right now) train in identically the same manner. I'll say the same about swimming, which was my previous sport. I trained a certain way with one coach, I achieved personal best times. I trained a completely different way with another coach, and I still did personal best times. I had my personal preference between the two coaches, others had their own preferences, and we all excelled in our own ways. Both coaches were "experts" and both had different philosophies. Well, who's to say who's right. I can't! I just know I had my own preferences. Slucido, is this at all in agreement with what you're talking about? I know people who love learning languages in classes. It's not the "right way" according to this site, and yet, they still thrive at it, because they love it. I love learning languages from text books, from listening, from chatting on-line, with private tutors, in classes, in taquerias, on the street. I mean, there are all these different ways to get some kind of valuable input. If it's enjoyable, it works! If I'm struggling to pay attention, it doesn't work so well. If you LIKE doing drills, if you LIKE learning grammar, then it works. If you like a full-immersion method, without the explanations, and it keeps you coming back, then that works. Slucido, is that not what you've been saying? Am I missing something? Bravo to you, by the way, in getting English practice while debating. I hope this has been helpful to you! :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 164 of 430 30 April 2008 at 11:20am | IP Logged | |||||
Thank you. I absolutely agree with you. Are these ideas so weird? I am thinking about Iversen. He works with word lists and dictionaries. Two politically incorrect techniques, but it seems that he succeeds. Who are we to tell him his techniques are wrong? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 165 of 430 30 April 2008 at 11:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6858 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 166 of 430 30 April 2008 at 11:59am | IP Logged | |||||
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You guys are really nitpicking.
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 167 of 430 30 April 2008 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
What I am saying is that all roads lead to Rome. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 168 of 430 30 April 2008 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
That might be a fair criticism if he were not so iconoclastic ( not to mention condescending and dismissive of others ). As it is I dont think its nitpicking to pick him up on what he is in fact saying. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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