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| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6654 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 194 of 430 30 April 2008 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Kató Lomb was wrong, too, apparently.
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| frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6740 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 195 of 430 30 April 2008 at 3:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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Since you know Russian, you can download her book from a link on that site - it's a great read! She took a class in Mandarin from a native speaker. I don't remember what she did with Japanese - she may actually not say much about it.
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| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6654 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 196 of 430 30 April 2008 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just did, finally. You're right, it is a good read. I wish I had done this sooner!
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| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6060 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 197 of 430 30 April 2008 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | ||
Interesting, it would appear the whole approach is based on study of an L1 L2 dictionary though, not purely native material. http://www.english-learning.co.uk/lomb.alkire.html Edited by ChrisWebb on 30 April 2008 at 4:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6654 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 198 of 430 30 April 2008 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just interpreted "native materials" to mean the newspaper or a novel or film and so on.
Again, love him or hate him, Steve Kauffman learns languages by reading and listening alone, using a dictionary and flash card software. These three are combined in what happens to be his own product that he touts ad nauseum, but it works for him. Apparently, his knowledge of a few Asian languages is excellent, though I am no expert. His Russian is decent. I can't believe I'm actually defending the guy, because he's can be so argumentative, but I do agree with his general philosophy that if you enjoy what you're learning, you will stick with it. He contends that native materials are the best. Again, I did not understand this to mean it was at the exclusion of using a dictionary or a good grammar. But there are some who feel that learning this way, versus a text book, is the way to go. I happen to like them all. That's me. And I can't convince any of my language learning friends to do what I do, so I can only assume that what they're doing is what they need, and I don't argue. Am I wrong to feel that way? Edited by CaitO'Ceallaigh on 30 April 2008 at 4:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6060 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 199 of 430 30 April 2008 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think the Wiki was misleading to be honest, Lomb for instance did in fact use textbooks as well as the dictionary according to the extract from her book, she also sought out native speakers for lessons.
I think that there are probably a range of workable methods, I just dont think pure use of native materials is likely amongst them unless the target language allows you to leverage a language you already know. I'd need to see some kind of real evidence to alter my mind as the view i currently hold is rooted in personal experience and appears to be confirmed by the experience of others. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6654 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 200 of 430 30 April 2008 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | ||
I agree with you! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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