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| rahdonit Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie Ukraine Joined 6612 days ago 50 posts - 87 votes  Speaks: Russian*, Ukrainian*, English, German | Message 185 of 392 18 March 2011 at 7:49am | IP Logged | ||||||||
You are welcome! 1) же has no extra lexical meaning in this context, it works only as an intensifying particle. Actually in many cases it is possible to omit it, but in this particular case I feel the phrase would sound unnatural without же. Sorry I cannot explain it better. 2) you can freely omit "для школы" and say just "мне надо сделать домашнее задание". Actually it sounds even better like this, "для школы" is already superfluous. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6140 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 186 of 392 19 March 2011 at 6:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Quarter 1: Swedish, Persian, Dutch   
Week 11: March 12 – March 18 Total Study Time This Week: 5.25 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 203 hours Average Study Time This Week: 0.75 hours/day Average Study Time in 2011: 2.64 hours/day 
So this week was not so successful, but I predicted that in advance. I had testing this weekend plus social events, and then I got sick for three days. Since this is the last week before Spring Break and teachers were trying to cram a lot in, I had/have a lot of make-up work to do. I also decided to take Teango’s and Solfrid Cristin’s advice and (mostly) take a week off. Even when I could have worked on stuff, I usually chose not to so that I could rest a bit and be ready to start up again intensively as soon as possible. It’s probably good timing, because I probably would have burned out this week anyways. As for next week, I’m leaving for Connecticut on Sunday and won’t get back until Friday (college visits again). I don’t expect I’ll be able to do very much in that time, so next week could very well end up looking like this week. Looking at what I did this week, it seems that I only worked on Romanian, Russian, German, and a tiny bit of Japanese. At least it makes for a short post! (I will likely end up doing some reading in French or Greek after writing this though; if that is the case I’ll edit this later to reflect that addition.) By the way, I think a lot of the numbers I gave for total study times were completely wrong. I’m looking at some of them now and it doesn’t make sense that I could get to a total of eleven hours of Romanian study, for example, if I only studied one hour and I was at 8.25 hours before. I know those first two figures are correct, so the numbers I gave last week are probably off. It’s far too much effort to fix it though. :P  Deutsch
Total Study Time This Week: 1.5 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 8.5 hours - Reading Internet stuff in German - German radio (~5-6 hours!) I only did a small bit of active study with German, that being reading. I was, however, listening to the radio in German for something like five or six hours yesterday while I studied German and did other things. I only counted one hour of that time though, because I was going in and out of listening. But what I listened to, I understood very easily. :) Not the most cheerful topics though…  Română
Total Study Time This Week: 1 hour Total Study Time in 2011: 11 hours - Teach Yourself Romanian Lesson 11 + BYKI I was exhausted and coming down sick on Sunday, when I did the Romanian study so I don’t remember exactly how that went. I remember that I did it though, and that I did it so that I could say the day wasn’t a complete failure. And also to procrastinate on homework, of course.  Русский
Total Study Time This Week: 2.5 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 12.25 hours - Michel Thomas Russian Vocabulary - Writing in Russian :) I had fun with Russian this week, and I’m really excited for it to be my focus in July along with Japanese. I started listening to the MT Russian Vocabulary course for the second time, the first being in the fall (October-December). I also did my little writing in Russian which I shared already and showed it to several people. My grandfather and uncle whom I mentioned in it were both very surprised to see my level, but now my grandfather wants to sit down with me and analyze every mistake and such so as to make it sound like more natural and authentic Russian. Not a bad thing, I suppose, but just funny. He’s a linguist so I guess I should have been expecting that.  日本語
Total Study Time This Week: 0.25 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 13 hours - School vocabulary Even though I really wanted to study Japanese this week (because I love it so much), I kept choosing not to. Why? Because it would make me think about the disaster in Japan, which was making me very sad. The only study for Japanese I did this week was for class, since we were having our first quiz of the semester. This is what I mean about it being a slow-moving class…  漢字
Total Kanji Reviews This Week: 498 reviews Total Restudied Kanji This Week: 80 characters Total Restudied Kanji in 2011: 640 characters I’m still moving along nicely with my kanji and managing to do my reviews every day. I’ve sort of scrapped my earlier schedule and am just adding however new kanji I feel like and have time for on that day, as long as it’s not an overwhelming amount. In any case, I’ve been keeping on top of my kanji reviews and restudies for exactly 40 straight days now so unless I’m prevented somehow from doing them, I doubt that I will stop at this point.  Español
I watched the very last episode of the very last season of El Internado on Tuesday, so I’m now officially done with that telenovela. The last episode was not what I was expecting at all. I don’t want to spoil it for anyone who’s engaged in the show, so I’ll try to say this as vaguely as possible (but I have a nasty habit of giving things away even when I try not to, so stop reading here if you don’t want this to happen!). I had read somewhere a while ago something about how a lot of very important (presumably good) people die in the last episode, so I was expecting something like that. To my surprise it wasn’t at all, although there were a couple deaths involved. I suppose the numerous deaths leading up to the end made up for it. I was sick and only half-conscious while I watched this episode though, so I’m going to re-watch it sometime soon. OTHER -  Magyar: While I was sick, I woke up in the middle of the night for a while so I read for a bit out of my copy of Teach Yourself Hungarian. It looks like a great resource and I’m excited to use it when I begin on Hungarian sometime in the hazy future.
-  עברית: (Hebrew text appears to be even harder to work with than Arabic text, so I’m not even going to try to get the formatting for the colors to work.) I decided to listen to a lesson from Pimsleur Hebrew while I was going to sleep one night this week. I think I fell asleep before it finished, but I still remember very simple Pimsleur-esque phrases like “את מבינה אנגלית” (at mevina anglit?) and “אני לא מבין עברית” (ani la mevin ivrit).
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| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5479 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 187 of 392 19 March 2011 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Hebrew text is so much easier for me than the Arabic script, partly because I was forced to do it in Hebrew school, so I've had it from a very youngish age. My grandma made an effort to learn Modern Hebrew, because she wanted to emigrate to Israel, and she only speaks Yiddish, Polish, English and Spanish, so it would be somewhat difficult to emigrate there with only those languages. She says it's somewhat "easier" to learn than other languages she's attempted to tackle. Edited by ruskivyetr on 19 March 2011 at 6:02pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Meelämmchen Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5081 days ago 214 posts - 249 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Modern Hebrew | Message 188 of 392 21 March 2011 at 11:04am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yes, the first one is correct. The second one is actually "ani lo mevin ivrit". I am lookinng forward seeing more of your Wanderlust going into this direction. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5468 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 189 of 392 21 March 2011 at 11:22am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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@ ruskivyetr: Your grandma speaks ONLY Yiddish, Polish, English and Spanish... Shame on her! My grandma couldn't even pronounce borrowed words, let alone speak another language.
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| darkwhispersdal Senior Member Wales Joined 6038 days ago 294 posts - 363 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Ancient Greek, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese, Latin | Message 190 of 392 22 March 2011 at 12:05am | IP Logged | ||||||||
My Grandma only speaks English, Wenglish and what she describes as Bad English :-)Out of curiousity why did she learn them? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5479 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 191 of 392 22 March 2011 at 1:20am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Haha well I mean she says only :). Whenever she says that people look at her like she's crazy, but she says that she was quite the learning when she was younger and used to be very skillful in German (although its very similar to Yiddish), Russian, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Italian, and French.
She speaks Polish and Yiddish as her native languages seeing as how she's a Polish Jew. She speaks English because she immigrated here, and Spanish because she worked as a translator for construction companies for a long while. Her interests in Hebrew are obvious, however she sites lack of interest in her lack of more languages...I think she's just lazy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6140 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 192 of 392 26 March 2011 at 7:36am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Quarter 1: Swedish, Persian, Dutch
Week 12: March 19 – March 25 Total Study Time This Week: 6.75 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 209.75 hours Average Study Time This Week: 0.96 hours/day Average Study Time in 2011: 2.5 hours/day 
Prepare yourselves for the shortest update yet this year. I’m now back from my trip but am sad to admit that I did almost no study whatsoever. I didn’t have a lot of time to begin with, and to make matters worse I’ve developed an annoying habit of immediately falling asleep when I step into a car or onto an airplane, so I even the long drives and plane rides were not put to use. :( Fortunately I was traveling with my grandparents, so I was semi-immersed in Greek all week so I decided to count all of my passive listening as study time so that I could say I studied more than two hours this week.  NEDERLANDS
Total Study Time This Week: 0.75 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 43.25 hours - La Pratique du Néerlandais 6-7 I did some Dutch this week! Unfortunately because I was cooped up in my hotel room while I was doing it I couldn’t do very much, so all I did was read through the sixth and seventh lessons of La Pratique du Néerlandais and note down the unfamiliar vocabulary. I need to pick up the pace with my focus languages in the next week because I’m changing focus at the beginning of April.  Ελληνικά
Total Study Time This Week: 5 hours Total Study Time in 2011: 12.75 hours Like I said, I was semi-immersed in Greek all week and decided that I deserved to count at least part of that time towards my study totals. My grandparents communicate in “Greenklish,” by which I mean that… 1. They can speak in either of the languages at random so that you never know which language they are going to say something in. (I usually use this ‘mode.’) 2. They might start a sentence in one language and mid-sentence switch to the other. 3. They’ll speak one of the languages but have several words from the other language sprinkled throughout the utterance. I wasn’t counting this mix of languages though. While we were there they were visiting several old friends of theirs who are also Greek, so the vast majority of all social interaction during the week was completely in Greek. I can confidently say that I understood at least 95% of everything, with the exception of one guy who slurred his words the whole time so I only understood about half of what he said. I mostly kept quiet but when I did speak I was complimented on my Greek (they were all very surprised because the last time I had seen them was 7-9 years ago and my Greek was essentially nonexistent at that point). 日本語
Total Study Time This Week: 1 hour Total Study Time in 2011: 14 hours - Chapter 1 of “Japanese Sentence Patterns for Effective Communication” I discovered another one of the untouched books in my language library this week. I bought this book at the end of 2009, but had only opened it a couple times since then. I wish I had used this before, because it looks like a great resource for getting the grammatical knowledge that I desperately need without getting bogged down with huge lessons and expansive vocabulary lists. Each pattern gives the sentences in English and then in Japanese (with kanji) and then the pronunciations. Following that is a short explanation to clarify what you saw in the sentences and then 3-4 more example sentences. Then there are some nice short exercises consisting of translating into Japanese using the newly learned patterns and a list of no more than six vocabulary words to be used in the exercises. Each pattern should take no more than a few minutes to study. I did the first chapter, which consisted of 20 very simple patterns. I knew most of them already because they were very basic things like “地震は大きくなかった” or “店員は親切で丁寧です”, but I think two of the patterns were new. この本が大好き！ 漢字
Total Kanji Reviews This Week: 421 reviews Total Restudied Kanji This Week: 23 characters Total Restudied Kanji in 2011: 663 characters I didn’t have the chance to study many new kanji this week but I managed to keep up with all of the reviews. Español
I started watching the last episode of El Internado again, but only got halfway through it before I had to go pack for my trip. Earlier this evening I listened to the entirety of La Sirenita while writing. OTHER A couple language related holidays to be observed this week! Élan reminded me that this week was نوروز (Nowruz), or Persian New Year. Iran continues to use its traditional Jalali calendar based on the zodiac and the first month of the year is فروردين (Farvardin), corresponding to the sign Aries. The other eleven months are: ارديبهشت (Ordibehesht) – Taurus خرداد (Xordâd) – Gemini تير (Tir) – Cancer مرداد (Mordâd) – Leo شهريور (Shahrivar) – Virgo مهر (Mehr) – Libra ابان (Âbân) – Scorpio ازر (Âzar) – Sagittarius دى (Dey) – Capricorn بهمن (Bahman) – Aquarius اسفند (Esfand) – Pisces Élan already provided a very good description of some the customs associated with Nowruz in her log, so if you’re interested, here you are. !سال نو مبارک Secondly, today is Greek Independence Day! Unfortunately I don’t actually know how this is celebrated in Greece and I spent most of the day in airports and on airplanes, reading US history instead of speaking Greek. Instead I’ll just drop a link to listen to the beautiful national anthem of Greece, Ὕμνος εἰς τὴν Ἐλευθερίαν. :)  Χρόνια Πολλά!
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