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| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 385 of 430 08 May 2008 at 4:36am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Obfuscation cant save a weak case my friend. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 386 of 430 08 May 2008 at 4:41am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Why would anyone be fool enough to allow you to shift the burden of proof from your own shoulders to theirs? It's your thread, you have the contentious view so please feel free to make your case, this should be good as you have set the evidential bar so high at this point and cannot really dodge your own demands without the appearance of utter and complete hypocrisy. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 387 of 430 08 May 2008 at 4:42am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Obfuscation about what? What weak case? What are you talking about? About agriculture? Please read my previous email and write about something concrete and useful. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 388 of 430 08 May 2008 at 4:50am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
This is not 'my thread'.:-)) This thread is administrator's thread I can understand that you are scared. I will give more meat. I think there is MORE objective evidence in favor of: 1-Distributed practice. 2-Mnemonics at the very beginning. 2-Non-error correction (speaking and writing) 4-Output from the very beginning. 5-Adding passive listening when you can not do active listening or study. But I am not sure if these points overcome SUBJECTIVE feelings... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| ChrisWebb Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 181 posts - 190 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 389 of 430 08 May 2008 at 4:54am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
You were the thread starter. No one is scared ( though I will grant that your logic errors are indeed scary ). This is my last post in reply to you. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6858 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 390 of 430 08 May 2008 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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I would like someone to answer this question, because no one has.
If there "is a best method", what is it? How have you come to that conclusion? Everyone says Slucido is wrong, that there is a a "best method," but no one can say what it is. Free icecream to whomever gets it right. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 391 of 430 08 May 2008 at 7:28pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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No one denies it that there's no single best method, but that doesn't mean that sensible methods (that involve input+output+time) are equally effective.
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| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6448 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 392 of 430 08 May 2008 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
You are making two claims that are wrong. One is absolutely right :) Several people tried to explain regarding the "best method", I am not aware that anyone claimed there was one - except slucido himself. Your need to identify or rather deny the existence of the best method is a philosophical conundrum that obscures the real truth. Chris made it crystal clear, I prefer the metaphores about butchering whales. Here's another example: From Summa Theologica: Beings in the world have characteristics to varying degrees. Some are more or less good, true, noble, and so forth. Such gradations are all measured in relation to a maximum, however. Thus, there must be something best, truest, noblest, and so on. I will spare you the rest, you should be able to see where it's going. While theologians are breaking their heads with the absolute, it should not be difficult to understand that some things may be good/better/ and best and that this "best" very often means simply "very good". A simple answer is that there is no single practical best thing unless you're into philosophy and that the best of something is in reality often a combination of many (good) things. This is especially true for methods, since many target a single skill or a specific situation. Slucido needs to learn a few things, adjective comparison included but that's the least of his troubles. He needs to understand cause and effect, basic logic and the difference between wasting time and "letting it fly". Edited by reineke on 08 May 2008 at 8:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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