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geoffw
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 Message 481 of 568
28 January 2014 at 5:17pm | IP Logged 
Hekje wrote:

I remember learning BAGS in high school French now - BAGS standing for Beauty, Age,
Goodness, and Size, i.e., all the types of adjectives that go before the verb.


Hmm...can't say as I've ever heard of that before! I wonder if NFWE explains it some
other way? Either way, I just learned something, too.
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Hekje
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 Message 482 of 568
28 January 2014 at 5:24pm | IP Logged 
geoffw wrote:
Hekje wrote:

I remember learning BAGS in high school French now - BAGS standing for Beauty, Age,
Goodness, and Size, i.e., all the types of adjectives that go before the noun.


Hmm...can't say as I've ever heard of that before! I wonder if NFWE explains it some
other way? Either way, I just learned something, too.

(Whoops, corrected a typo)

But yeah, it's a pretty solid way to remember. I just looked it up and it seems like there are exceptions, but that's
practically a given in French.

The link below explains it pretty succinctly:

Adjectives Before the Noun


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geoffw
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 Message 483 of 568
28 January 2014 at 5:31pm | IP Logged 
So it's precisely those 15, and none others, it appears? Odd, but certainly a small-scale
project to learn.
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 Message 484 of 568
28 January 2014 at 5:53pm | IP Logged 
Hekje wrote:
It's funny, you know, I'm doing two Assimils at once and so I can't help but compare. My conclusion: Assimil French is definitely way funnier than Assimil Indonesian.
Like, there's not even a contest. Every day it's like:

Assimil French: *Whoa ho ho, hilarious story about a diamond-eating rabbit*

Assimil Indonesian: "I would like to rent a bicycle or perhaps a scooter. Bicycles are
less dangerous than scooters but easier to steal. You can't have this scooter. I like
the helmet that goes with your scooter. But I cannot trade my helmet for your scooter.
Please remember to return my scooter."


Ahahahaha I laughed remembering the diamond-eating rabbit story! =P
Indeed, Assimil French is very funny! Russian as well, maybe even more. Dutch was quite funny as well.
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Hekje
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 Message 485 of 568
28 January 2014 at 9:03pm | IP Logged 
geoffw - Seems so! Odd indeed. Still a useful mnemonic, I think.

fabriciocarraro - Yes, for some reason that one really stuck! You guys are all having such a great time with your
Russian, makes me want to learn it. :-)

Edited by Hekje on 28 January 2014 at 10:37pm

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 Message 486 of 568
28 January 2014 at 10:50pm | IP Logged 
Naar Montréal ben ik tenminste vijf keer gereisd--sinds de jaren 90 tot maar 2012. Het
helpt mij dat ik heel veel woonde in Canada familielidden heb. Het is meer dan klaar
dat
mijn favoriete seizoen en jaartijd waar ik graag in reizen 's winters is. Als men mij
het
vraagde, ik heb zeker 40 tot 50 familielidden dat daar in Canada wonen.

Ik woon liever in een stad waar de temperatuur tussen -40 tot -15 's winters in staat,
maar uit het nieuws dat waar ik naar kijk, het lijkt me dat de temperatuur in New York
is
iet warm. -3 graden, -5, 0 gemiddeld elke dag 's winters is niets koud. Ook houd ik van
Ottawa, Toronto, enz., waar de temperatuur iet warmer in staat, maar nog is het wat
kouder dan New York. En ook meer sneeuw. Ben jij zelf daar naar het noorden gereisd? Ik
denk dat daarnaar misschien wat kort gaan rijden is, tenminste waar woon jij van.
Eigenlijk ben ik nooit in New York of de oosten van de VS, maar de oostkust van Canada.
Maar ik kent de temperaturen van die regio.

Edited by 1e4e6 on 28 January 2014 at 11:31pm

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agantik
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 Message 487 of 568
29 January 2014 at 2:52pm | IP Logged 
geoffw wrote:
So it's precisely those 15, and none others, it appears? Odd, but certainly a small-scale
project to learn.

It is true very few adjectives are concerned. By the way be careful with "beau" et "vieux" which turn into "bel"
and "vieil" before masculine nouns starting with a vowel sound:
- un vieil homme ( the h is mute)
- un bel immeuble
The place where you put the adjective "vieux" can have an incidence on the meaning of the sentence:
- du vin vieux = good wine which was aged in barrels
- du vieux vin = old wine from a bottle opened a long time before
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Hekje
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 Message 488 of 568
30 January 2014 at 3:03am | IP Logged 
1e4e6 - Het kan dat New York normaal iets warmer is, maar deze winter is het niet zo
geweest. Ongeveer -12 graden. Dit is mijn eerste winter in New York en daar heb ik geen
gevoel voor, ik ben er echt niet blij mee! Wat vind je het leukste als het dan zo koud
is? Want het is zeker niet leuk om buiten te zijn. :-)

Afgelopen maand ben ik voor de eerste keer naar Montréal geweest. Ik vond het héérlijk
zeg - zo'n mooi stadje, met veel vriendelijke mensen en lekker eten. Het was ook veel
meer francophone dan ik had verwacht. Ik ben nog nooit naar Toronto of Ottawa
geweest, maar ik heb een vriendin die in Toronto woont, dus... op een dag zal ik bij
haar op bezoek gaan.

Ben je dan ooit naar de VS geweest?


Small life update: I've been waiting to hear about a particular grant, and yesterday I
heard it didn't come through. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little bummed. Still,
there are a few other opportunities coming up this year. I'll focus on them and keep my
chin up. :-)


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