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Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 361 of 758 23 August 2012 at 12:29am | IP Logged |
არ ვიცი. ბოლო დროს რომ დაწერა, ტიხიიდონის თემაზე იყო.
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| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5256 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian
| Message 362 of 758 23 August 2012 at 3:00am | IP Logged |
შეიძლება იმეილს არ იღებს, როგორც ჩვენ.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 363 of 758 23 August 2012 at 8:45pm | IP Logged |
I'd like to share this sentence I read at Hewitt's book:
„ნუ გეშინიათ! ეს საქართველოა, სადაც არავინ არაფერს არ ასწრებს დროზე“.
I forgot the meaning of the ა- preffix, but I think this is not a compliment for Georgia...
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 364 of 758 23 August 2012 at 10:17pm | IP Logged |
You're probably aware that Hewitt seems to take a rather idiosyncratic view of describing the grammar while some of his example sentences are odd and/or give off a certain antipathy for Georgians to the point where even learners (not to mention a Georgian professor) suspect that something is out of line.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 365 of 758 23 August 2012 at 10:38pm | IP Logged |
Yep Chung, I'm aware of all this, I take the whole book with a grain of salt (what an imagery it brings). I just can't help being surprised, I thought most of those idiosyncracies had vanished in the 2nd edition but not all, as it seems.
If I came across a book written for American that made jokes on the fact Brazilians are not punctual, I'd write to the publishers till death until they edited it for next releases hehe. Reinforcement of stereotypes is surely not what a serious language learner, who wants to dive into a new culture, needs.
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 366 of 758 23 August 2012 at 10:45pm | IP Logged |
On the plus side, at least your abilities in Georgian are getting to the point where you're starting to recognize things that while grammatical, are semantically strange.
Hewitt's book sounds to me as if you had say a non-Brazilian author of a textbook on Portuguese insert dialogues whose content are grossly unflattering to Brazilians even if the sentences themselves are grammatical and so the author quietly shields him/herself figuraively by claiming that he/she is teaching "proper grammar".
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 367 of 758 23 August 2012 at 11:04pm | IP Logged |
You know, there's not much choice in terms of Georgian textbooks. He does covers some aspects in grammar in a more structured and vivid way than Aronson. Besides, it's far from being my only source for Georgian, as can be seem through this log. His Structural Grammar is quite extensive, so, overall, I forgive him hehe.
Kiziria should have written a sequel to Beginner's Georgian, one has simply too little content in its 13 lessons and is not quite ready to face Aronson's thoroughful grammar. So, there's a gap between Beginner's Georgian and Georgian - a Continuing Course which I'm trying to fill up since February!
I wonder how zecchino is dealing with this, I assume she's beyond the textbook stage, and now she's mostly liking and sharing 'miyvarxar''s and 'Seyvarebuli''s at FB =D
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| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5256 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian
| Message 368 of 758 23 August 2012 at 11:11pm | IP Logged |
Expugnator wrote:
I wonder how zecchino is dealing with this, I assume she's beyond the textbook stage, and
now she's mostly liking and sharing 'miyvarxar''s and 'Seyvarebuli''s at FB =D |
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Lol! No, not yet haha. I'm far from past the textbook stage. I still have like 3/4 of
Aronson left! As far as textbooks go, mostly I've been reviewing the dialogues from
Kiziria. For the most part though, I tend to just read things online (articles, blogs,
etc). But like I said, I have been very lazy lately!! I don't think you realize how much
harder you work on Georgian than I do haha! :)
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