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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 449 of 758 05 October 2012 at 9:30pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I'm not very fond of biographies and the text was rather long, but I liked the Reading Passage for lesson 13 after all. I could get a nice idea of the text, which means that when the subject is more or less familiar, you can understand the text more easily and even learn more grammar as you figure it out within the text. lesson 14 is shorter with less exercises and the author warns us the reading passage is long, but on the other hand it consists of a story with dialogues. Thus, I hope it will be actually easier. If I manage to read the grammar explanations soon, maybe I can finish the book next week.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 450 of 758 08 October 2012 at 12:56am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I've finished lesson 14's exercises. They were really nice: sentences were short and
dealt with daily-usage subjects instead of literary circles (no prejudice). Now I've started the reading passage, a novel excerpt which, although being longer, sounds much more interesting and much easier to be understood from context than a text on how to calculate the date according to several ancient calendar systems. Now I'm excited about reading in Georgian!!! Can't wait to decide whether I will start with Jules Vernes, Le Petit Prince, Lord of the Flies or an actual Georgian text. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 451 of 758 08 October 2012 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Today's studies started earlier. I manage to finish the reading passage for Lesson 14,
which I had started yesterday. Now there's only lesson 15 left, which I may finish today or tomorrow. It's a milestone to be reached. When I first saw that book, I knew it wouldn't allow me to start learning Georgian straight from it, and for a few times I thought I'd never actually use it. Now I'm glad I could make a good use of Aronson's grammar. I haven't actually learned any more than 10% from it. Regarding the perfect, for example, I'm still totally clueless, but I hope this introduction will allow me to get used to it. I must say that I prefer to use Armazi's site as a reference once I've been through the first necessary explanations. I expected to find more "extra" grammar topics on usages, syntax other than the traditional parts of speech. Maybe I should try the Georgian Syntax - A Relational Grammar which covers this topic extensively and which now sounds more accessible. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 452 of 758 08 October 2012 at 6:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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What's the difference between სიცოცხლე and ცხოვრება?? Both mean life, while ცხოვრება is a verbal noun. I wonder how their usage differs.
EDIT: At today's Newspaper Reader I read an obituary: “მჯერა სიცოცხლე სხეულის გარეშე“. How is this belief like in Georgia? Edited by Expugnator on 08 October 2012 at 6:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Murdoc Triglot Senior Member Georgia Joined 5252 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Georgian*, English, Russian | Message 453 of 758 09 October 2012 at 12:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Expugnator,
'სიცოცხლე' is life as a natural phenomenon, in a biological/physical sense. 'ცხოვრება' is life that makes up our, human existence from birth to death.
მჯერა სიცოცხლის სხეულის გარეშე.
As majority of population are quite religious, naturally they share the Christian belief of life after death. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 454 of 758 09 October 2012 at 3:30am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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So, it's over. Just finished the final reading passage for Lesson 15. Extended learning
yesterday, today before work and this evening were just enough for me to accomplish this important task. I became much more used to reading Georgian thanks to Aronson's accurate explanations on grammar and tips for actually interpreting Georgian texts. Now I have to decide whether I'll start right away from the Continuing Course or start over with one of the Russian books for which I got audio. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 455 of 758 09 October 2012 at 7:52pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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So, here we go! Continuing course.
I could understand the dialogue so far. It's not translated, most expressions are explained through notes but there are some verbal forms I still couldn't work out: დაცოლშვილდი - married with children ?? მონახე - found (in the sense of 'couldn't you find anyone to marry with?). What's the difference between this and იპოვე? უბედურებაც იმაშია - that's (exactly) the problem ??? ორივეს ხომ ვერ შევირთავ ცოლად - I don't remember the verb შევირთავ, but I guess this means he can't marry both. კურდღლის მდევარი ვერც ერთს ვერ დაიჭერსო - he who chases two rabbits catches neither 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Murdoc Triglot Senior Member Georgia Joined 5252 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Georgian*, English, Russian | Message 456 of 758 10 October 2012 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Yes, that's right.
I can't think of any significant differences.
Yeah, that's the meaning pretty much.
'შევირთავ' is from the verb 'შერთვა' – 'connect', 'unite'. ცოლის შერთვა – marry (to woman).
That's right, except 'ორი' for 'two' is missing in the beginning of the sentence. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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