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| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5350 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 521 of 672 26 June 2012 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, I checked my inbox today and found it flooded with heated team posts about visas! (lol)
For my 2 cents or roubles' worth here...I really don't favour the visa processes in any particular country. In my experience, I always end up feeling like I've boarded Kafka's Magic Roundabout and the whole ordeal to get back to terra firma (hopefully on the desired side of some border) is a dizzying affair! Obtaining a visa is often a mind-numbing, frustrating and expensive process. I've already gone through the dreaded Russian visa process for the second time this year, and I agree it's certainly no fun to stand in lines for registration when you get there either (especially with my dumbo level of Russian). Who in their right mind likes to be treated as an inmate, partially divorced of respect and humanity, and shouted at to fill out the exact same forms again and again? Being side-nodded from kiosk to kiosk by grimacing window cadavers is like some kind of cruel tourist hazing, all no doubt a needless throwback to Soviet bureacracy and a throw forward to job dissatisfaction. Now my wife and I are applying for visas to the US (we've got an interview at the embassy in the UK coming up soon), and it's just as much of a pain in the neck, once again, as well as in every other flexible part of my mind and wallet. The vast tide of inane rules make very little sense to me, despite my best efforts to decipher their inner da Vinci code, and all the regulations simply flow in rivulets of small print through my sieve-like mind, snaking off like a river of legalese onto some bureacractic happy sunset on the horizon. There's enough paperwork and evidence here to make anyone's eyes spin and then goggle some more, all simply to prove we're not some secret language nerd splinter cell or potential Pacific Ocean border hoppers. So let's just put politics aside here folks, and simply agree on the basic terms, visas suck! ;) Edited by Teango on 26 June 2012 at 8:06pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5020 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 522 of 672 26 June 2012 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | ||
That's hardly interesting for those who have gone blind ;-) OK, so I generally hate tourists because I perceive them as overall annoying and disrespectful no matter how much money they can leave behind, although I believe there must be tourists of the good kind too. However, the same goes for every group of outsiders (prospective workers or whatever) visiting any country. There are good and bad elements, and you can make statistics based on your past visitors and build heuristics to keep the bad ones out in the future, but no visa system will ever be perfect because human worthiness can't be measured off compliance with bureaucracy alone. Meanwhile we must accept such systems seem overall satisfactory for those who inflict them upon potential visitors, or they'd be promptly doffed (I mean the visas). Just keep waiting, and complain... to the bureaucrats! So... if I'm not mistaken we're scheduled to do Ypok 6 over Skype in five days time, and we're even two units ahead in our gathering of materials? One thing kind of makes up for the other I guess ;) Edited by mrwarper on 26 June 2012 at 8:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5275 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 523 of 672 26 June 2012 at 9:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey guys! Remember me? Well I'm back :). I'm going to be updating my log again, but due to regular traveling
across the country I may not be able to join the group Skype conversations. I'll keep you all update of course ;). I'm going to update my log with what I'm going to do for summer languages if any of you are interested enough to take a look. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5128 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 524 of 672 26 June 2012 at 9:27pm | IP Logged | ||
Yay!! Welcome back, you have been missed! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5350 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 525 of 672 26 June 2012 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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С возвращением, ruskivyetr! Looking forward to your update. :)
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| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5275 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 526 of 672 27 June 2012 at 2:21am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm glad that my presence has been missed :). I'm super excited to get started again!
Although all this review will be a pain in the neck... The bright side: I get to see how much fun it is again ^_^! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4591 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 527 of 672 29 June 2012 at 11:38am | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, I've finally come back after so long (I moved again), and I see all these heated
posts about visas! Political, economic, or national pride reasons are very dense subjects, and people, being so uniquely different, will always have conflicting views on each. I'll get around to updating my log within the weekend. Again, thanks for the dialogues as usual, Kat! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4770 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian | Message 528 of 672 29 June 2012 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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Welcome back, ruskivyetr, and hello again, Woodsei!
Nice to see you both again. :) To Mark: Sorry if I got snappy. The visa thing can get very frustrating, especially when it's discussed as a political item, rather than a logistical issue. Best to stick to language-discussions only, methinks. Hope everyone has a good weekend, and I hope to see (talk) to some of you on Sunday! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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