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| js6426 Diglot Senior Member Cambodia Joined 4314 days ago 277 posts - 349 votes  Speaks: English*, Khmer Studies: Mandarin | Message 281 of 457 26 February 2013 at 7:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Ok I have done the Feb challenge. Unfortunately I didn't get around to doing a Khmer song, but I have done
Mandarin. I memorized the chorus by heart and most (but not all) of the rest, and as my singing is so bad I won't be uploading a video/audio for this challenge! I thought the challenge was fun and actually quite useful, it was good to try and translate the song. So this is the song I went with 杨坤 - 不见面的朋友. I was unable to find a video of it. Here are the lyrics and the translation. I did the translation myself and have no idea if it is right, if anyone has the time/desire to give a decent translation that would be great, if not no worries! 走 陪我走了那么久 越来越像朋友 我为什么不放手 想留没有更好的理由 因为渴望自由 这次你决不回头 你想走我想留 曾经的温柔 到最后谁也带不走 我为了你为了你什么都放弃 想忘了你忘了你彻底都忘记 流过血的伤口到底能疼多久 你我成了不见面的朋友 想留没有更好的理由 因为渴望自由 这次你决不回头 你想走我想留 曾经的温柔 到最后谁也带不走 我为了你为了你什么都放弃 想忘了你忘了你彻底都忘记 流过血的伤口到底能疼多久 你我变成不见面的朋友 我为了你为了你什么都放弃 想忘了你忘了你彻底都忘记 流过血的伤口到底能疼多久 你我变成不见面的朋友 走 陪我走了那么久 越来越像朋友 我为什么还这样不放手 我为了你为了你什么都放弃 想忘了你忘了你彻底都忘记 流过血的伤口到底能疼多久 你我变成不见面的朋友 我为了你为了你为了你 想忘了你忘了你忘了你 不见面的朋友 我为了你为了你为了你 想忘了你忘了你忘了你 什么都为你 English - You've walked with me a long time becoming more like a friend why can't I let you go I want to stay but I have no good reason because I desire freedom now you cannot turn around you think go, I think stay once tender at last who also would not go (not sure of this line at all) I gave up everything for you think you have totally forgotten everything blood flows from the wound, in the end it can hurt for a long time you and I have become friends that don't meet I want to stay but I have no good reason because I desire freedom now you cannot turn around you think go, I think stay once tender at last who also would not go I gave up everything for you think you have totally forgotten everything blood flows from the wound, in the end it can hurt for a long time you and I have become friends that don't meet (TWICE) You've walked with me a long time becoming more like a friend why can't I let you go Few lines of repetition of various parts of the song that I don't really know how to translate! It's all for you 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| maurelio1234 Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5874 days ago 61 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, French Studies: German, Mandarin | Message 282 of 457 26 February 2013 at 11:36am | IP Logged | ||
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hi, I completed the february's challenge too. I chose 记得 from 张惠妹 (also known as AMEI). You can find its youtube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xthLlCrHYU. It was a very interesting experience for me, and I think I am going to try to do it at least one a month from now on. A nice related exercice is to try to read the lyrics and sing with the singer, I think it helped me alot in reading subtitles in chinese movies. I think I learned the whole lyrics, and I will try to type them from memory below. The words in parenthesis indicate my mistakes when writing the song from memory. For example, "情(亲)爱的" means that it should be "亲爱的" but I wrote "情爱的". The translation represents my best understanding of the meaning behind the lyrics, if there's something wrong (in my translation or in my English!) please correct me. 记得 - Remember Chorus: 谁还记得 是谁先说永远的爱我 Who still remembers who was to first one to say that would love me forever? 以前的一句话 是我们的以后的伤口 The words we said in the past hurt us after 过了太久 没人记得 当初那些温柔 It's been a long time we don't remember the sweetness(?) of the beginning 我和你手牵手 说要一起 走到 最后 Me and you hand in hand, saying that we would be together forever 我们都忘了 这条路走了多久 We both forgot how long was our path 心中是清楚的 有一天 有一天都会停的 My heart is sure, that there will be a day, when this all will end 让时间说真话 Let the time say the truth 虽然我也害怕 Even if I also fear 在天黑了以后 That after the dark days 我们都不知道 会不会有以后 We don't know if there will be an "after" (we are still going to be together) (Chorus) 我们都累了 却没办法都() 往回走 We got tired, and couldn't manage to come back 两颗心都迷惑 怎么说 怎么说都没有救 Two confused hearts, Who said there's no "salvation"? 情( 亲)爱的为什么 也许你也不懂 两个相爱(的)人 Why do lovers...( even if you maybe do not understand)... two lovers 等着对方先说 想分开的理由 wait the other (the partner) to say first that he/she is thinking about separation (Chorus) 谁还记得 爱情开始 变化的时候 Who still remembers when our "love" started to change? 我和你眼的 (的眼)中 看见了不懂的天空 When our eyes started to look at different directions 走了(得)太远 终于走到 分叉(岔)路的路口 There's been a long way, and we started taking different ways 是不是 你和我 要有 两个反向(相反)的梦 Is it that we have different dreams? (Chorus) Edited by maurelio1234 on 26 February 2013 at 11:36am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 4924 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 283 of 457 26 February 2013 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | ||
I've completed the February challenge. Here is my song. I've learned the chorus by heart and understand the rest. Here's the text: หล่อๆ หล่อๆ อย่างผมแล้วใครจะ ทนไหวเล่า หน้าตาดูดี อย่างนี้ ใครๆ ก็เรียกไอ้หล่อเหล า สาวใดสบตาต้องกรี ๊ดอ่ะ ใครเจอก็อยากใกล้ ชิดอ่ะนะ แล้วให้ผมทำยังไง เล่า หล่อๆ หล่อๆ อย่างนี้มีสาวทั้ง ปีไม่พลาด แต่ไม่มีเวลาไปสน ทุกคนก็เลยต้องเ ศร้า แต่น้องคนนี้ดูดี อ่ะ คุณได้สิทธิ์นั้น เดี๋ยวนี้ ไปกินข้าวกันมั๊ย จ้ะ ขอโทษนะคะ อุบาทว์ ห๊า ห๊า ห๊า ห๊า ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อรูหูตัวเอ ง ไม่จริง ไม่จริง ไม่จริง หน้าตาเราดีที่สุด ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ เมื่อกี้พูดเล่นใช่ มะ ไม่จริง ไม่จริง ไม่จริง พูดอีกทีได้รึเปล่ า อุบาทว์ อุบาทว์ อุบาทว์ ยังไม่ได้ยินอีกหร อ พอเถอะ พอเถอะ คนสวย น้องคิดว่าน้องเป ็นใคร หน้าตาอย่างเงี้ย พี่หาแถวๆ ข้างทางก็ได้ ยังไง ตัวพี่ก็หล่อ แล้วอย่ามาง้อแล้ วกัน น้องพูดงี้ได้ไง อ่ะ กว่าคนจะหล่ออะน ้อง มานี่จะเล่าให้ฟ ังว่าต้องทำไงบ้ าง กว่าคนมันจะหล่อ ยากเหลือทนต้องกิน เนื้อกินนม อยู่ทุกที่ เล่นแอ๊บโดมีไน ซ์เกือบทั้งปี เพราะอยากมีหุ่นด ีน่ารักจัง ตื่นนอนมาแต่เช้าห น้าขาวผ่อง แต่มาเจอตัวน้อง พูดอย่างนี้ โง่ งี่เง่า อดของดี จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ จ๋อยเด้ ไม่เคยเจอใครอย่าง นี้ ของดีๆ ไม่คว้าเอาไว้ ชมพู่ แพนเค้า อั้ม โทรมาทุกวันพี่ไม ่ใส่ใจ เธอพลาดซะแล้วคุณ น้อง ลองกลับไปคิดดูให ม่นะ ขอโทษนะคะ หล่อตายล่ะไอ้...อ ุบาทว์ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อรูหูตัวเอ ง ก็ไม่จริง ไม่จริง ไม่จริง หน้าตาเราดีที่สุด ก็ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อ ไม่เชื่อรูหูตัวเอ ง ก็ไม่จริง ไม่จริง ไม่จริง หน้าตาเราดีที่สุด The song is about guy who thinks he's the best looking guy ever, and a girl who tells him to bugger off. He can't believe it. This song is as crap as are the other roughly ten songs I looked at for this challenge, but this is the only one with a bit of energy. It's probably not suitable for karaoke. I'm not a big fan of Thai pop music and didn't enjoy the challenge very much. None of my Thai friends is interested in karaoke, so I haven't had much exposure to karaoke hits. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| BloodyChinese Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4158 days ago 39 posts - 61 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2 Studies: Mandarin, Korean | Message 284 of 457 26 February 2013 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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I had tons of fun completing the February challenge!
One of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard is 橄榄树(The Olive Tree) by 齐豫, a famous Taiwanese singer. Here's the youtube link: Without further ado, here's the text and translation: 不要問我從哪裡來 bu yao wen wo cong na li lai Don't ask from where I have come 我的故鄉在遠方 wo de gu xiang zai yuan fang My home is far, far away 為什麼流浪 wei shen me liu lang Why do you wander so far 流浪遠方...流浪 liu lang yuan fang liu lang Wander so far, wander so far 為了天空飛翔的小鳥 wei le tian kong fei xiang de xiao niao For the little bird flying in the sky 為了山間輕流的小溪 wei le shan jian qing liu de xiao xi For the blue brook running in the mountain 為了寬闊的草原 wei le kuan kuo de cao yuan For the broad meadow green and wide 流浪遠方...流浪 I wander, wander so far liu lang yuan fang liu lang 還有還有 為了夢中的橄欖樹橄欖樹 hai you hai you wei le meng zhong de gan lan shu gan lan shu Then, is there more? Yes, for the Olive tree of my dream 不要問我從哪裡來 bu yao wen wo cong na li lai Don't ask from where I have come 我的故鄉在遠方 wo de gu xiang zai yuan fang My home is far, far away 為什麼流浪...為什麼流浪遠方 wei shen me liu lang wei shen me liu lang yuan fang Why do you wander? Why do you wander so far? Far, far away 為了我夢中的橄欖樹 wei le wo meng zhong de gan lan shu For the Olive tree of my dream 不要問我從哪裡來 bu yao wen wo cong na li lai Don't ask from where I have come 我的故鄉在遠方 wo de gu xiang zai yuan fang My home is far, far away 為什麼流浪 wei shen me liu lang Why do you wander so far 流浪遠方...流浪 liu lang yuan fang liu lang Wander so far, wander so far // I've listened to this wonderful song hundreds of times. It is just now that I've actually tried to understand it, and as a result I have learnt a couple new words and find 橄榄树 even more hauntingly beautiful than before:) 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 4924 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 285 of 457 26 February 2013 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | ||
That's really a beautiful song! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Hidden Linguist Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4153 days ago 64 posts - 87 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Mandarin, Sign Language, French | Message 286 of 457 27 February 2013 at 12:02am | IP Logged | ||
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Welcome to the team Youngbin. I look forward to following your progress. I’m much more of a lurker than a poster at the moment, but I do keep up with everyone’s logs and enjoy seeing what people are getting up to with their languages. :)
The February Challenge I’ve actually enjoyed this months’ challenge. I’m not much of a music listener usually (though I do have my favourites), but I’ve discovered a few songs that I like (and which I would probably never have even considered listening to otherwise). I had some trouble finding the lyrics and translations for some of the songs that I liked but I got there in the end and I decided to learn ‘Jasmine Flower’ for the challenge. I’ve had to copy and paste the characters from online because, although I’m wary of online translations, my character reading and vocabulary are nowhere near good enough for me to work through them on my own. 茉莉花 (mò lì huā) 好一朵美麗的茉莉花 好一朵美麗的茉莉花 芬芳美麗滿枝椏 又香又白人人誇 讓我來將你摘下 送給別人家 茉莉花呀茉莉花 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| maurelio1234 Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5874 days ago 61 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, French Studies: German, Mandarin | Message 287 of 457 27 February 2013 at 11:41am | IP Logged | ||
Hey, I suppose you know that many people talked about this song in the chinese speaking world two weeks ago, because it was sang by celine dion in the last chinese new year. Hope it interests someone: video 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Evita Tetraglot Senior Member Latvia learnlatvian.info Joined 6346 days ago 734 posts - 1036 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, German, Russian Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 288 of 457 27 February 2013 at 11:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I chose a song from the soundtrack of Secret Garden, a Korean drama. I probably would have learned this song even without the challenge because I really liked it when I was watching the drama. And the first time I read the translation, it hit me hard in the context of the drama. It's called "That woman" and the second version is called "That man".
The lyrics of the song are rather long so rather than posting them here I'll just link to them: Korean and English translation. To make it more interesting for those who are not studying Korean, here are the links to youtube: That Woman with Thai subtitles and That Man with Chinese subtitles Studying this song was quite frustrating from the language point of view. Even though I had the English translation I still wasn't able to understand some constructions. Still, I learned almost all of it by heart, I only have trouble with two lines. I know the first part best so I tried to type it out from memory. It went very well, the only mistake I made was a spacing mistake. Overall I wouldn't say I had fun learning this song but I'm satisfied with the result. I estimate I might have listened to the song about 50-60 times. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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