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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6414 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 25 of 457 15 December 2012 at 10:39am | IP Logged |
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I'm posting this on the main sign-up thread and on all team logs.
This is a special announcement for all teams, certain ones more than others: -The purpose of TAC teams is to support, help and encourage each other. “All for one and one for all.” That means reading each other’s logs, and commenting them where appropriate. It also means no more bickering. - It the future all teams will be closed upon reaching 15 members, and new teams will be formed for those languages. Should a new team only attract a few members (about 5-7 depending on the team members prior TAC experience) by the sign-up deadline (31. January 2013), they will be merged with the original team. If in the course of the year, the teams lose half their members, they may also choose to merge. Any team that already has more than 15 members will not be divided, but they will not be allowed to add new members. - Each team is to choose a team leader by Tuesday, 18 December. Inform me of your choice by then. The leader must have prior TAC experience unless there is no such person on the team. The leader is to keep me up-to-date regarding their team. - I have created a French team and a Spanish team. Anyone studying those languages may choose to join them if they wish. The original Romance teams will remain in existence for those who are studying other Romance languages or who are interested in multiple languages. Note that even if you are only studying French or Spanish you may choose to be on a Romance team rather than a single language team. If there is enough interest for an Italian, Portuguese or Romanian team, I will create one. However, I would like those who may be interested in such a team to gather at least 5 team members before asking me to form the team. I am sorry to have to make these additional rules, however it is obvious that certain teams are already on the verge of falling apart and a number of more experienced TAC members have noticed this and sent me PM’s requesting that I do something. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4662 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 26 of 457 15 December 2012 at 7:43pm | IP Logged |
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Hello everyone,
it's good to see this thread become lively! :) Nice to meet you all! I'll be posting my introduction soon, I just have to think a little longer about my language plans for 2013. Team Updates: We have some additions to the team. vermillon has joined us with a dazzling variety of languages and Kami and Evita will be participating with Korean. To everyone who hasn't done that yet, please also register in Brun Ugle's official TAC thread. I don't think it's a problem if you don't feel like changing your log titles. I also added Japanese to The Real CZ's languages. I think it's nice to get more Japanese students on the team, despite there being a separate Japanese team. Unfortunately, LanguageSponge has decided to leave the team, because he says that studying in country means he won't need the external motivation TAC provides. Mini-challenges: I was thinking of taking into account different levels. With some challenges like learning a song it's possible to do that as a beginner and also as an advanced student. There are lyrics with such a wide range of difficulty... (Evita: LOL A Karaoke / 노래방 meeting on Skype would definitely suit the Asian team.) I also thought of challenges like "complete a GLOSS lesson", where everyone could choose their level. The challenges could either be vague like "write a text you find challenging" or we could have slightly different tasks for different levels. I also think it's okay if not every challenge is equally challenging or useful for everyone. The idea behind the challenges would be to foster more participation in the team thread and make TAC feel more like a team effort instead of solitary study. Team Name and Symbol: As Solfrid Cristin requested, we might want to look for an English term to call our team. I really like the meaning behind it, but Team Crane doesn't sound too great. Should we stick with our symbol or go for a different name? What's everyone's opinion on this? Team Leader: We have three days to appoint a team leader who keeps Brun Ugle up-to-date. As far as I'm aware the possible choices are The Real CZ, vermillon and me, because all of us took part in the last TAC. Exchanging Contact Details: Vegemighty suggested to exchange weibo / qq contact details for everyone who is studying Chinese. I think it's a good idea. I think we could also exchange Skype IDs - anyone interested in trying Skype meetups for the team? Additionally, I suggest that everyone leaves an E-Mail address or other contact method with the team leader, so it's possible to contact anyone who might go MIA throughout the year. Edited by druckfehler on 15 December 2012 at 7:44pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4472 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 27 of 457 15 December 2012 at 9:15pm | IP Logged |
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I'd go for our Chinese character and "Asian team"... If the point is only to have people not interested in Asian languages and who can't be bothered to copy-paste to be able to call us, then probably "Asian" is enough. Or if you guys have a favourite name, please go ahead... I personally don't care much, this is a non-issue to me.
As for a team leader, I would have said YOU, as you've organized so much already :) Well, except if you feel that it's too annoying. (PS: I "joined" the team? My, I thought we had been discussing it already!) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4662 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 28 of 457 15 December 2012 at 11:25pm | IP Logged |
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Well, let's say you "officially" registered...? Actually, vermillon got the team idea rolling in the first place :D I admit it was a bit silly to include you in the list of new additions ;)
Regarding the team leader thing: I don't really know how much time I'll have in 2013, but I'm certain that I'll keep at Korean in one way or another. Now that I'm so enthusiastic about Persian I'm not sure where that leaves my Mandarin plans. But I could definitely keep a tab on what's happening in the team. Edited by druckfehler on 15 December 2012 at 11:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| LittleBoy Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5104 days ago 84 posts - 100 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 29 of 457 16 December 2012 at 1:01am | IP Logged |
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大家好! 我叫Rob，我是英国人，我学一学中文。
In English, hello all! I'm Rob, I'm English and learning a bit of Mandarin and joined this team in the main TAC 2013 thread.. I'll do a proper introduction tomorrow when I've set up a new log (I'm starting afresh from my old one). Just wanted to say a quick hello in the meantime. Looking forward to a great year together! EDIT 16/Dec/12 - Typos... Edited by LittleBoy on 16 December 2012 at 1:04am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BloodyChinese Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4158 days ago 39 posts - 61 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2 Studies: Mandarin, Korean | Message 30 of 457 16 December 2012 at 3:34pm | IP Logged |
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Hi everyone!
I am half Chinese but didn't grow up speaking Chinese. Similar to The Real CZ, I have become interested in the language now that I am in my early twenties. I am enrolled at a University in Germany but after a few months here, I have to say that I am dissatisfied with the course progression and speed. My classmates are typical students in that they only study as much as is required, often times even less. In recent weeks I've noticed that I have become more and more like them, so to counteract the influence of my lazy 同学们(tóngxuémen), I am designing my own "course". It will be in spirit of Khatzumoto's All Japanese All The Time, hence the cheesy title of my log. I am also taking ideas from the writer of ChineseQuest(a blog) and irrationale's log here on this forum. I have written a more detailed introduction in my log, which also contains my strategy: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=34572&PN=1 Looking forward to this as well! (Quick question: How do you add the TAC tag to an already existing thread? Microtag doesn't seem to do it.) Edited by BloodyChinese on 16 December 2012 at 3:44pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4662 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 31 of 457 16 December 2012 at 4:06pm | IP Logged |
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Welcome Rob and BloodyChinese!
Right at the top of your thread (above the first post) you can select you thread's tags. I'm not sure if only senior members have access to that, so I'll quickly tag your log. Looks like quite a few of us are in Germany at the moment. Maybe we could have a meetup :D Useful Resources Of you have sites you would like to share with the group, just post the links in here and I'll put them in the second message of this thread. I reserved a space for that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BloodyChinese Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4158 days ago 39 posts - 61 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2 Studies: Mandarin, Korean | Message 32 of 457 16 December 2012 at 5:26pm | IP Logged |
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Useful Resources(Mandarin):
- http://www.skritter.com/ Best tool for writing practice and also a great SRS. You can load pre-made vocab lists from pretty much every Chinese textbook out there, too. Consider buying a bamboo pad if you want to get the most out of it. If you are already practising your writing for more than an hour a day, the monthly charge($15) is well worth it. - http://ankisrs.net/ SRS tool for offline practice. Consider downloading the Pinyin Toolkit plugin(File->Download->Shared Plugin->Search for "Pinyin"), and then downloading one of the pre-made decks(File->Download->Shared Deck->Search for "Pinyin Toolkit Sample Deck") so that you only have to enter the Hanzi. The plugin auto-completes the Pinyin, translation into multiple European languages and also downloads the audio. You can download shared decks here as well. You can select from -HSK lists(old and new) -popular textbooks(New Practical Chinese Reader, Practical Audio Visual Chinese, Integrated Chinese etc.) -Remembering the Simplified/Traditional Hanzi(if you are interested in the Heisig method) -Frequency lists -custom decks like irrationale's "Mandarin Master v2" - http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/ If you want to learn Chinese grammar, look no further. Often times, their explanations are better than those you can find in the popular textbooks. - http://www.nciku.com/ and http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php Two of the best online dictionaries. You can even sentence mine on both websites if you are already at that stage. - http://chinesepod.com/ and http://popupchinese.com/ The two most popular podcast series on the net. They complement each other in that Popupchinese is geared towards HSK preparation and embraces grammar, while Chinesepod covers more slang and is more about learning essential expressions you are going to use daily. Popupchinese Premium subscription costs about $100 a year, while ChinesePod runs at $124 for a Basic Subscription to $249 for a Premium one. If you are a cheapskate like me, most ChinesePod lessons can be *cough* acquired. - http://radio.smgbb.cn/ and http://cnnews.rti.org.tw/ Two of the most recommended radio stations(talk radio!). One is based in Beijing, the other in Taiwan. - http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/index From Speaking/Listening/Writing/Reading skills in Mandarin to how to go about scholarships and living in China/Taiwan; it's all being discussed there. - http://www.sinosplice.com/ , http://eastasiastudent.net/ , http://chinesequest.wordpress.com/ Three great blogs, covering all aspects of the language. If you want to study in Taiwan, Chinesequest is especially useful to read. - http://pinyin.sogou.com/ Best input method based on Pinyin I've found. Understands common phrases and you can switch between Chinese and regular input with the tab button(which is handy when you are entering new vocab into SRS) - http://pinyinput.sourceforge.net/ If you want to type in Pinyin, this is a simple, yet effective tool. - https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/perapera-kun-chi nese-popup-tra/ Pop-up Dictionary for Firefox and Chrome(https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/perapera-ch inese-popup-di/hlcddplhfenagbaipfjhhcjmebhkkaif) Also available for Japanese(and Korean in the future) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao2aBk5qbR3udEF tMWpIaUJwVUhmY3B2SThndFZTclE&authkey=CM3ymrwI#gid=0 Want to read Chinese comics on the Internet? This is the master list. - http://www.tudou.com/ and http://www.youku.com/ You can find Chinese TV series and movies there. Edited by BloodyChinese on 16 December 2012 at 5:45pm 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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