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| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5128 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes  Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 657 of 844 02 January 2013 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I've been using scriptorum for a few months now. I try to do it every few days for a quarter of an hour or so, and I
just copy a random article from a magazine or a paragraph or two from a school book. I'm not entirely sure what it does for me, but I like the handwriting practice, and I find I remember some words, constructions and spellings well after having done scriptorum. But as with everything, it's rather random what sticks and what doesn't. How do you use scriptorum? You seem to go about it in a more systematic fashion... maybe I can learn from your approach. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4866 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 658 of 844 02 January 2013 at 10:23pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Seems to just be the fate of being anywhere intermediate... I remember the phenomenon from when I was studying English and the same is happening with Korean now. I always think "wow, that sounds awesomely native" and then it doesn't. But eventually it will, so it doesn't matter. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5647 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 659 of 844 03 January 2013 at 4:13am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Have you watched the Professor's video before? I do it like he describes exactly. I prefer to do this with a grammar reference in front of me, where each grammar point has five sentences each and an English translation for each sentence. I have never done this with a novel or anything because looking everything up would be a pain. With the English translation in front of me, I can concentrate on learning the structure. I then move onto the next grammar structure in the book that I have trouble with. Throughout the day, I try to use these structures in sentences through speaking and writing to reinforce what I learned.
That's good to hear. This is the first language I've ever been intermediate in (aside from sucking at English as a baby), but I figured I have nowhere to go but up as long as I stick with Korean. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5647 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 660 of 844 13 January 2013 at 4:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Since I last posted, I have started school. From the looks of it, I'll easily be able to manage my time and energy between school work, looking for an internship, and learning Korean.
I dropped out of both of my teams because there was roughly 40 different logs to follow. I have joined an international fansite (that will officially launch around the end of the month) as a translator and editor. I'm also spending more time translating for my own blog, Hallyu Interview. That was the main factor in deciding to drop from the TEAM TACs this year. I have my own path to travel and I can't diverge from it by doing all of these team challenges and reading of other logs when I have articles to work on. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5647 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 661 of 844 21 January 2013 at 9:00pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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This past week I've mainly been focusing on translating. This is forcing me to really learn grammar that I don't know well. I'll still do the scriptorium, but I plan only to use that for grammar structures that really need work instead of ones I don't know that well. I'm also doing what I did back in December: reading out example sentences from my grammar book. It's almost as effective, much easier to do, and a lot less boring.
I haven't really gotten much active practice aside from trying to translate English to Korean. I can see why translators suggest to only translate into the native language. It's really difficult to translate into a second language. Since translating is my favorite way to learn (I translate interesting content, not boring shit out of a textbook), I'm doing a challenge for myself: to translate 100 interviews. As of now, I have 5/100 done. I'm assuming that this will take me at least this whole semester to complete. I currently have 58 interviews in the queue 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5647 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 662 of 844 07 February 2013 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Just in case anyone is wondering, I'm still alive and here. I just haven't really had anything new to update. I've translated some more interviews, which is helping me internalize some new grammar fairly quickly.
As for dramas, I'm watching quite a few, but I don't have the time to keep up with them all these days. I'm busy searching for an internship, so I try to watch at least an episode a day. Yesterday I finished another book (I don't remember the name at the moment.) I had an hour of free time yesterday and blazed through the second half of the book. While I still don't understand 100% yet, I understand quite a bit and context really helps. If I keep reading a lot, I think I'll soon be at the stage where I can do more extensive reading when it comes to novels. I still need to rely on intensive reading when it comes to specific subjects (business, politics, sports, IT/science). I haven't had much time to write on lang 8, though I'll work on something this weekend. I started dabbling with Japanese and French again. With Japanese, it's mainly just easing back into it. With French, I'm just going through a couple of lessons per day, as I simply just analyze the sentences and try to infer what it means rather than spend 15-30 minutes listening to a 1-2 minute audio track over and over while reading the French side and then the English side. I simply just listen to the French audio and follow along with the script, usually doing 10 of those at a time. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4845 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 663 of 844 08 February 2013 at 3:05am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Is it better to translate when you reach a certain advanced level, like you have with Korean?
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| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5647 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 664 of 844 08 February 2013 at 3:40am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I honestly started translating songs and such when I just broke into the "intermediate stage". You can really do it once you get the the intermediate stage, but it is better to wait until you get to the higher intermediate stages. You'll have a much better feel for grammar and vocab and won't be nearly as frustrated.
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