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You cannot use "één" in front of "honderd". Honderd dingen is a plural (because of
honderd) and thus if it's indefinite you drop any articles. Een honderdtal dingen, however, means that honderdtal is the noun, and dingen is a possessive qualifier (A hundred-amount of things). Honderdtal is not necessarily less accurate, although most of the time it means you don't know exactly if it's 100 or 102 or 98, so you say "een honderdtal". And you can extrapolate this to any number under a million: "vijftigtal, duizendtal, twaalftal, elftal (usually means a team in sports such as football or field hockey because you play with 11 players)", etc. It's 'een miljoen dingen', however. Edited by tarvos on 04 November 2012 at 5:54pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
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FAQ-NL: What is the translation of "ledengeld"?
Today in De Telegraaf: "Van Tongeren houdt haar pleidooi in de Volkskrant en op de website Joop.nl, de van ledengeld van omroep Vara betaalde opiniesite." Another example from Wikipedia: "Deze site wordt onderhouden uit ledengeld van de VARA, hetgeen ze op kritiek kwam te staan." 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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I find "ledengeld" hard to translate, because it's not even clear what it means to me -
literally it's membership money, but it sounds like the site is maintained by the monthy contributions members are obliged to pay for membership of the magazine. Subscription fees? Edited by tarvos on 12 November 2012 at 2:20pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
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FAQ-NL: Difference between "recept" and "receptuur"?
Recept means recipe or prescription. Receptuur means the science or knowledge of making prescriptions. But I noticed in De Telegraaf today an example of using "receptuur" in apparently the same sense as "recept". Is there a subtle difference? Are the words interchangeable for "recipe"? From De Telegraaf: "GroenLinks denkt hét recept te hebben gevonden tegen de economische crisis:" "Onze receptuur voor deze crisis is een psychologisch advies: leef ontspannen." 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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The dictionary says it's a possible meaning, but I don't like the word in that sentence
at all and it sounds really quite pompous and silly. Should have just used the word "oplossing". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
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FAQ-NL: omgeturnd, turnen, turner, turnleraar?
I see turnen (gymnastics), turner (gymnast) and turnleraar (gym teacher) frequently, but today I saw 'omgeturnd' for the first time. It seems to be used as 'turned around'. I would gave expected 'omgedraaid'. Is omgeturnd indeed 'turned around' in the sense of becoming lost (I somehow got turned around and couldn't find my way out of the woods.)? I assume 'turnen' and its associated words are directly linked to all the 'turning' that a gymnast does. That seems like a word that didn't get to Dutch from the Germanic side but perhaps as a recent import from English. However, turning in English has no direct usage similar to gymnastics, other than the turns themselves. Is 'omgeturnd' possibly an English borrow word? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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Turnen isn't PE. Turnen is the specific sport of gymnastics that is also an Olympic
discipline. "Omturnen" is just to change something around. It's used in the context of omscholen, or in the context of sports positions "Ik was vroeger een aanvaller, maar ik ben omgeturnd tot verdediger" (I used to be a forward but they turned me into a defender). Omturnen is used specifically for occupations or positions. You could equally say "Ik was een scheikundige maar ik ben later omgeturnd tot toxicoloog/communicatiedeskundige" etc. etc. It has nothing to do with actual movement or being lost. The best translation to English is "to turn into something (else)". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
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FAQ-NL: Koninginnedag and Koningsdag?
Having lived in the Netherlands for six years, I am very familiar with Koninginnedag. Lots of fun and a nice cultural pillar. However, I never understood the spelling; specifically the "ne" as compared with the "s" in Koningsdag. I assume it is the possessive spelling from old Dutch. Maybe it is used for possessive for other Dutch words ending in "n" but I can't think of any. That extra "ne" in Koninginnedag always made it more difficult for me to pronounce smoothly, but now, Koningsdag is going to be much easier. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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