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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4972 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1505 of 1702 09 November 2014 at 4:14am | IP Logged | ||
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I hate to say it but I'm right there with you on the I don't mind not passing this year bandwagon. There's a little peer pressure but frankly, with my Korean class, there's a lot more pressure to pass in homework than to sit down and study Japanese grammar/vocab. I'm studying Japanese but if you take out anime.. well it's not even every day then. Next year, if I take a class in the fall but also sign up for the JLPT, I'll be doing an audit.
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| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 5913 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 1506 of 1702 09 November 2014 at 4:23am | IP Logged | ||
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Me, my distraction is more work and exercise than Finnish, which I've neglectd lately. I was thinking I'd pass N2 and then make Finnish my priority, but I keep failing. I think I'm just going to cram practice tests, which I've done in the past. Still I think helps most with the weird thing that is JLPT.
I'm afraid I am kind of losing the plot, far as the listening comprehension though. Have been watching some anime pretty regularly, but I do tend to drift off still. Very frustrating. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4972 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1507 of 1702 09 November 2014 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yesterday was a Korean studying day for me. But I didn't even do the homework for class. I got caught up on my Korean reviews - and did a lot of reviews for misc vocabulary that may/may not be in the book from How to Study Korean. And then I went nuts making flashcards from the lessons from How to Study Korean. I got to lesson 6ish a while back on there and then stopped. Making us learn so many conjugations at once was overkill I think, especially since I was going for production learning instead of recognition. I've changed my thoughts on that. I'm going to focus on just recognition learning for anything having to do with grammar. If I'm SRS'ing it I think it will start sticking anyway since it matches up with Japanese so well. With that in mind, I read / made flashcards up through lesson 20. That was a lot of reading. I had a lot of questions.. namely, I'd like to know the Korean quivalents for stuff like て form and comparatives and はず、かもしれない、でしょう、relative clauses etc, 欲しい、て欲しい..
I found the Korean て form finally around midnight. It's GO form instead hehe. It looks similar. It's used to connect clauses just like て is in Japanese, as in I did this, then I did that. It's used with their version of 欲しい too.. I forget what that is now.. I'll have to review.. SHIP or something. It's an adjective just like 欲しい so it's a really really similar structure. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5770 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 1508 of 1702 09 November 2014 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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Are you not tempted to pick up some Korean learning materials written for a Japanese speaking audience? This should at least make the parallels in grammar between the two languages very obvious, while at the same time you get some Japanese practice for free?
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4972 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1509 of 1702 09 November 2014 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | ||
Yeah I would be if I had any to look at.. Well there's the youtube videos I linked over the summer. I think I will watch those. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4972 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1510 of 1702 09 November 2014 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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I went ahead and made flashcards for lessons up to 26. I finally reached the relative clause section and the part about making sentences into nouns. Yup. Just like Japanese. Well, the relative sentence thing is slightly different. You don't just use plain form of the verb, you have to use a different conjugation for present/past/future. (Korean has a future tense which I am really annoyed at)
I have tons of studying material now so I am finally going to stop making cards I think. I find it funny how although what we learn in class seems slow and easy.. it's so out of order with How to Study Korean teaches it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Evita Tetraglot Senior Member Latvia learnlatvian.info Joined 6340 days ago 734 posts - 1036 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, German, Russian Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 1511 of 1702 10 November 2014 at 5:59pm | IP Logged | ||
How to Study Korean is different from 95% materials out there. The fact that it doesn't teach verb conjugations at all until the 5th lesson is very strange, and the fact that it starts with the 먹는다 form is even stranger. That's usually classified as intermediate level grammar, and you won't find it in the beginner TOPIK. Most textbooks start with either 먹어요 or 먹습니다. I'm actually surprised that you like this site so much. I've read about 20 or 30 of their lessons and I admit that the grammar explanations are mostly good but there were three things making me cautious. One - it teaches things out of the normal order. Two - the vocabulary choices often seemed not appropriate. And third, most importantly - the author is not a native Korean, and in fact he hasn't lived in Korea that long so I couldn't fully trust the example sentences or anything else he said. But if these things don't bother you then good for you, there's a lot of good material on the site. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4972 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 1512 of 1702 10 November 2014 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well all of the example sentences are recorded by his native Korean wife so I'm fairly confident that they're
good. I like the site because it is written - not a radio show or something so I can read it an refer to it as a reference. And it's so convenient for making flash cards. I just copy and paste and there's native audio too. Awesome. The vocabulary seems as good as any. I don't know what kind of research he did but I find a lot of the words I study there show up and it's on memrise with mems. They really help a lot. What I don't like is the order of grammar but I don't love the order the grammar is taught but I can put up with that considering the other benefits. And I like the explanations too. Edited by kraemder on 11 November 2014 at 1:58am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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