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| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5979 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes  Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 905 of 1702 28 April 2013 at 11:07am | IP Logged | ||
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On Anki you can set it so that you have to type in an answer which is then compared to one of the fields on the card. So my kanji in context deck is made up of phrases or sentences from the workbook with the target word underlined, which I then have to type the reading for in the box. This set up has worked well for me.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 906 of 1702 29 April 2013 at 10:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well it turns out the typing in feature on my app is too limited to be if
use for Japanese.. Maybe a future update. Also, I was studying the kanji outside of context.. Trying to test myself on the kanji alone without it even being in a word. And make myself remember it's common pronunciations. I was thinking this would make me stronger at kanji. Obviously I study them in context too. Oh well.. Class is keeping me pretty busy for now anyway. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5979 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 907 of 1702 29 April 2013 at 10:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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I tried memorising the readings of kanji outside of words at one point too, but in the end it felt like too much effort for too little benefit. Knowing the readings of kanji is obviously a really important and helpful skill, but in my experience if you learn how to read and write vocabulary words in kanji, you often learn the pronunciations of the kanji as a useful side effect anyway. 一石二鳥.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 908 of 1702 29 April 2013 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | ||
You test yourself to write out the kanji too? Or just the hiragana and then to pick it aka romaji input on a computer? I've tried the former but it was time consuming.. But kind of fun. But time consuming. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 909 of 1702 01 May 2013 at 12:07am | IP Logged | ||
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Final days of the Jap 202 course. We have the chapter packet due tomorrow.. I just have to fix a couple mistakes. I basically finished it Sunday. There's a listening quiz tomorrow. It's terribly hard to study for those so I generally don't bother. He doesn't give you a hint in advance on what to review or anything anyway. And tomorrow we have Sugawara's World Famous Kanji Game. He does it at the end of every semester. It's basically word search game. He has a deck of cards with vocabulary written out on one side in Japanese using kanji. I believe, but there may be a few exceptions, that he only uses kanji taught in the course. We've gone up to about 500 kanji now after 4 semesters. But it's a lot easier than if he were drawing on kanji say from the full Joyo kanji list. I would personally find that to be a lot more fun. As it is, this game isn't so much about knowing kanji, although to an extent it is, it's about how fast you can find the word. He stands to the side and calls out a word in Japanese and then we try to grab the correct card with the word. Then we have to say what it means in English. Some cards will have plain form etc., but some will be conjugated so we have to take that into account in the translation. It's a fun game and if you win you get a small prize often and all the Japanese language students tend to be curious of who wins. Unfortunately I tend to stink at this game. I don't read upside down very well. And I tend to be a little careful about what card I grabbed.. I don't want to make a mistake as it's embarrassing. But others aren't so hesitant and aside from the embarrassment there's no penalty.. so it's to your advantage to grab grab grab. I'm a little curious how the 2 chinese students will do in our class. They haven't been that strong in Japanese throughout the semester - I think they are enjoying being abroad and having some fun rather than studying lots and lots, but still.. it's kanji hehe. You'd think they'd have a big advantage. Edited by kraemder on 01 May 2013 at 12:09am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 910 of 1702 02 May 2013 at 5:20am | IP Logged | ||
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I wonder how much I bombed on the listening quiz today. I think I got 2.5 hours sleep last night. I took a short name around 6 pm and well.. did late workout after.. which seems to keep me from sleeping. My coworker was like "how can you even function right now?" And that was at work - Japanese was after. We did a short review for the final. He has a packet put together and basically he gives Japanese examples that are either correct or slightly incorrect and we have to distinguish and then correctly translate it into English if correct. We've been doing this packet the past 2 classes and I performed much better today than before. Which makes no sense.
Then we had the kanji game. I did about as expected - I think I got a couple cards more than last year so I did do better. I could have simulated the game myself to practice and I'm sure it'd help seeing as how the best people got (almost) three times as many cards as I did. It can drive you crazy a little - he'll call out the Japanese and then someone will beat you to the card.. but then they have to translate it into English and they really have no idea what it means. How did they pick the card!?! grr. I think I'm a bit slower at reading hand written kanji than I am at reading printed computer style kanji. I'd think that would be the same for others but it doesn't seem that way. The Chinese students did win the game. They're really quiet in class and I didn't think their Japanese vocabulary was very strong but I was really proven wrong. They were good! I wonder why they don't do as well in regular classroom exercises. Anyway, the kanji game is lots of fun. I'd like to do something like it in the future. Not sure how I can make that happen though. Edited by kraemder on 02 May 2013 at 5:23am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 911 of 1702 03 May 2013 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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My mind has moved beyond the course - I'm only 50% focused on the class now. I'm already thinking about..
and studying as if the class were over. But there's papers due.. well translations due. So I am gonna have to buckle down and force myself. I have to translate to small essays in English. He's super picky on how you translate it. You can't translate the gist of what you're reading and get full credit. You'll get some credit but the points will be taken off. It can be a pain because obviously Japanese and English aren't very close languages so.. but in the class and in the book we use certain translations for certain structures so you have to remember to use those. And another thing that gets me, although not as much for the readings as for the quizzes with isolated sentences, is guessing the subject when he leaves it out. Oh well. I might take a break and just do vocab flashcards. I am debating getting back into iknow.jp. I kind of hate letting a subscription go to waste. I might just balance it with the other vocab I'm doing. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4794 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 912 of 1702 04 May 2013 at 3:57am | IP Logged | ||
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That kanji card game sounds like so much fun! I envy you :D
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