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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6617 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 241 of 1702 21 February 2012 at 8:21am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Well. I still beat you, but not by as much as I expected. I'm 38.
I know it feels a bit weird to be the oldest in any group. I've had the same experience. However, when we were young, we often looked up to those that were older. And language learning really has nothing to do with age (unless you're starting to get Alzheimer's or something, which I doubt). The only reason young people seem to learn faster is that they have more time. Most of these college students don't do anything except go to a few lectures every week. Outside of that, they can study all day, assuming of course they can pull themselves away from the partying and flirting and whatever else they do.
Actually, it's not the sugar that does it, it's the vitamin C in the orange juice. Both sugar and caffeine will give you a sudden spike in energy, but then you'll crash. I read about a study done recently that said orange juice right before a workout can improve your stamina and make you able to work out longer and harder. I'm going to try it. I'm trying to lose weight too, but it's really hard to get back to working out. When manic, I often workout for hours. And then I'm gorgeous :-) or a least thinner, but when I have an extreme depression, it's impossible to work out. I also have too little energy to make real food and end up with frozen pizzas and suchlike. So now, I've gained nearly 5 kilos, and it's very uncomfortable.
Can't help you there, unfortunately. I actually love grammar and can understand it easily, but that doesn't mean I necessarily remember it when I need it, especially if I try to speak and need it quickly. Sometimes when you learn some new grammar, it helps to talk to yourself and try to use that grammar point as much as possible. Of course, you could also try it on others, but they will probably think you're nuts. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6082 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 242 of 1702 22 February 2012 at 11:42am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Have you tried taking the examples out of your textbook and running them through TATOEBA? That will give you more examples to work with. I'm not sure what grammar you're workin on but I just go to Tatoeba and search little pieces like "なさい" for 行き なさい (the order to "go") and I ususally get some simple sentences which I can then copy into my anki deck. Then if I'm really studious I tag my cards so I know what grammar point it is when I'm reviewing the cards days/weeks later. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 243 of 1702 22 February 2012 at 11:24pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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No I didn't know about that website. It looks really nice. I added it to my bookmarks. I need to improve my grammar a bit though before I can start using it I think - I prefer to understand all the grammar used in a sentence before I go and memorize / study it like vocabulary and I'm not there yet.
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| r0pe Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4662 days ago 29 posts - 33 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 244 of 1702 23 February 2012 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Hi,
I just wanted to say hello. I started my own log and I'd like to take part in this Team if possible :) My name is Robbie and I'm living in Germany. どうぞよろしくお願い。 Edited by r0pe on 23 February 2012 at 8:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 245 of 1702 25 February 2012 at 6:07am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I read a few more paragraphs of Harry Potter. It's quite a bit easier than before the course. I also added 100 words to my flashcard app using rikai - I plan to study those. I'm decided on studying to recognize the new vocab instead of seeing the English and producing the japanese. I think it's easier although not terribly easier. Frankly, most of that vocabulary is above my current level of Japanese anyway so I would have no business using it. I'm sure some of the more used vocabulary will sink in anyway.
Unfortunately I'm barely studying Heisig kanji. Learning 2000 kanji is quite an endeavor and with all the studying I'm doing for the course there isn't time for it. Stinks but oh well. I'll have to pick it back up after the course. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6617 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 246 of 1702 25 February 2012 at 7:20am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Actually if you are just doing individual words, I think recognition is the only way to go. There are so many words that can have virtually the same meaning that if you try to recall them just from an English word, there will be too many to choose from. You might answer with a different Japanese word than the one on the back of the card, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong. It may just be a synonym. This isn't a big problem in the beginning when you don't know so many words, but as you get to know more words and more ways to say things, it becomes almost impossible to figure out the Japanese just from the English.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 247 of 1702 25 February 2012 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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You're right about that. There's a handful of words already that annoy me like that. It's not so bad that I can't just deal with it yet but I guess it just gets more and more annoying. hmm... I'm thinking I'll probably go with showing the kanji of the word. I'm not sure what to do with the audio - have it read with the kanji automatically or what. Oh well. We'll see.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 248 of 1702 03 March 2012 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Weekend update. In class we've started in on relative clauses. I find it a little entertaining that the other kids
in the class are pretty weak when it comes to English grammar - the teacher asks if they know what a relative clause is in English and how to do it and I'm the only one that really knew. That's not to say that they didn't jump right on it and understand it when explained to them. But I don't think their understanding was as solid as mine - for the 1st time my experience studying other foreign languages gave me a small edge. I think they'll get it pretty soon though as this is a smart class. Anyway, so we're doing relative clauses. Since the teacher is going a bit slow with this as it's traditionally hard for his students to pick up it feels like a little bit of a breather for me. I've been using it to read through the paperback copy of Oxford Japanese Grammar and Verbs. I bought this way back when and my hiragana was too shaky and well I hadn't even been introduced to a lot of the basic grammar stuff nevermind the more complicated and it was just too overwhelming. I'm finding it much more readable now. I'm also doing Heisig again. Last weekend I mentioned Heisig at our class study group and also said that it's a lot to keep up with and do this course. That night I couldn't stand that I was forgetting it and sat down and started in again. I've done 100 kanji a night since. Most of it is coming back without too many issues. I'm at 1070 due right now and hope to get it down to 900 due before moving onto something else. That's better than I was at any point in the past doing Heisig so that's cool. There's a total of about 1500 kanji in my Heisig deck. When I get it down closer to 300 due I think I'll start adding new cards. Maybe I'll wait until I am all the way to zero. I'm putting japanesepod101 deck on hold. I am convinced a lot of the words they are giving me in the 2nd 1000 are meant for people living in Japan and it's just a pain. Instead I'm focusing on vocabulary I'm getting from Harry Potter. I have 100 cards in the deck now and it's more interesting to study. Since a huge part of my plan on learning this language is to read the Harry Potter books I know for sure that this vocabulary is going to be very useful to me. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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