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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 353 of 1702 25 May 2012 at 8:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well I am finding that the anki app doesn't adjust the volume of the background music to well keep it in the background. My other app does that - but I'm still happy that it lets me play music while listening to flashcard audio.
For people curious about RTK I thought I'd give an example. 穏 Calmly, the wheat farmer hits vultures with his broom to his heart's content. The sentence gives the order of the primitives and the meaning and really helps me to remember it and write it correctly. Darn that kanji character is small =(. I tried using an HTML tag to increase the font size to no avail. I don't think it's possible for posters to adjust the fonts here =/. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4794 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 354 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 4:02am | IP Logged | ||
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It's better to put in a whole word rather than a single character because numerous
characters have the same On (Chinese) reading that it'll confuse you. Words stick better, and then later on in the book, with new words, the characters you've already studied in the beginning will show up in new compounds so you'll reviewing those while at the same time fighting only half the battle, since there's only one new character in the word to learn. Whether you make your own deck or use a shared one, you'll probably have to double check the book anyway, so don't worry too much about mistakes. I put words, not single kanji, in Anki in the order of the book. Hope that helps. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5979 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 355 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 10:29am | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah Heisig is definitely not for me but I am slightly envious of those of you who have made it work. I have realised that the problem with the kanji I listed above is that 力 and 口 can appear on both left and right, so I'll just have to pay careful attention. I really need to start building up some more kanji power now. I have been quite lazy about kanji the last twelve months but if I want to improve my level, reading is really important.
I didn't have trouble reading 穏 with the font size here but I think something like 鬱 would be trickier! Most browsers have a zoom function anyway. Actually, I find the font size on Skype annoyingly small. There are occasions I don't recognise a kanji I should know because of it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 356 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 11:01am | IP Logged | ||
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Heh yeah my iPad zooms in very nicely... What a kanji that is lol. Not one I've seen before =). A bit hard on
the eyes I'd hate to squeeze it into a sentence. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6617 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 357 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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It means depression (like the psychological illness) and is in the RTK supplement, so it must actually be a jouyou kanji. Though I can't imagine it would be one you'd meet every day.
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 358 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 6:48pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm guessing you already know all the elements or radicals already so it would be a waste of time. What source material did you use to learn that? I have a friend who doesn't like RTK but I feel bad that she doesn't know the radicals/elements etc. I'm looking for a good book on it that is more "traditional" in it's approach to kanji that she might like. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5181 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 359 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 9:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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Meh I'm making my own RTK 2 deck after all (I had started one only to find I was doing it all wrong since you can't just put the kanji on the front)
Here's how I'm doing it... kanji pronunciation being tested 低 Side 1 top bigger font: 低級 Side 1 beneath smaller font: 低きゅう Side 2 テイ Side 2 ていきゅう Side 2 Low-class They're all different "fields" or sides of a card deck so they're easy to manipulate. I could take the 2nd element right out very quickly if I decided it were too much of a crutch. But I don't think that'll happen at least until I've gone through a few reviews. Now that I've gone through these words a few times as I sort of stumble a bit getting started, I am noticing that he's going out of his way to use kanji whose pronunciations I saw in previous words. Very nice. Unlike the anki deck I saw I'm not bothering with RTK1 meanings in the cards. Would take even more time to make them and I know most of them anyway (and I'm still doing my RTK1 deck too) (edited to add the katakana pronunciation to side 2... I decided lazy or not I want that there) Edited by kraemder on 26 May 2012 at 11:04pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5979 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 360 of 1702 26 May 2012 at 11:25pm | IP Logged | ||
Good question! What really got me started was a combination of Basic Kanji Book and Anki. Basic Kanji Book does have a lot of useful information about how kanji work, however I didn't pay this as much attention as I should have done when I started out as I was too eager just to learn lots and lots of words. But over time I seem to have worked things out somehow. "Let's Learn Kanji" is quite a nice introduction to the building blocks of kanji with a more traditional approach. It gives Japanese names for radicals and components where these exist which is really helpful if you want to learn how to talk about kanji in Japanese! As a method it is not so good because they suggest memorising all the components first, which I think is unnecessary, but as a reference and a general introduction to kanji, I would recommend it. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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