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| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 417 of 479 09 November 2014 at 3:05pm | IP Logged |
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한국어 (2014년 11월 2일 - 2014년 11월 8일):
Suspended Korean Cards: 24 (Oct 2013 cards) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) GOAL STATUS: Week 46 Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards) Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130 Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): DONE Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 15/24 Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 6/12 Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 8/12 Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 29/52 Team Gumiho Challenges: 2/3 --- 日本語 (2014年 11月 2日 - 2014年 11月 8日): Current RTK Lite Status: Lessons Done = 26 -> 29 (56) Kanji Covered = 950 -> 1085 (2042) Active SRS Cards = 581 -> 659 (1116) (The values before the arrow are last week's values. The values in parentheses are the totals for completing RTK1 / RTK Lite.) Pimsleur: 34-37 (active), 38-40 (passive) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) Comments: On Sunday, I went through lesson 27 which puts me past the halfway mark in RTK1. These new Pimsleur lessons are more difficult mental work than 1-30 as it is new material, where I'd been through 1-30 previously. As such, doing a new lesson each day was starting to get a bit mentally taxing. So this week I repeated 34-35 then proceeded on with 3 new lessons. I plan to repeat this pattern of 2 review and 3 new lessons per week for now and see how it works. If it works well, it is still much faster than doing each lesson 2-3 times like I was doing in the past for my first ever passes of Pimsleur Korean and Pimsleur Japanese. What I wrote above about Pimsleur was written earlier this week (as I create my weekly update in a text document throughout the week then post it on Sunday). However later in the week, I decided to change tack altogether. Part of the reason for my change is that while Spanish and Korean rarely made a habit of introducing new words very late in a lesson, Japanese 2 is becoming notorious for it. Between the fact that there isn't much review time left in the lesson and the fact that my brain is half-fried by that point, those words do not tend to stick well. So what I'm opting to do is something I had planned to try next time I did a Pimsleur course, but did not remember to do so when starting on Japanese again. I plan to go through the Pimsleur course passively then repeat the course actively responding. This should make the active wave a bit less tiring as I've already been exposed to these words previously. Also, I can go through the passive wave faster than the active wave, so it shouldn't take me all that much longer either. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 418 of 479 16 November 2014 at 3:06pm | IP Logged |
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한국어 (2014년 11월 9일 - 2014년 11월 15일):
Unsuspended Korean Cards: 7 - AOA - Get Out (1 card; 0 remaining) - 홍진영 - 사랑의 배터리 (1 card; 3 remaining) - No Brain - 넌 내게 반했어 (1 card; 3 remaining) - Girls Day - 기대해 (4 cards; 9 remaining) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) GOAL STATUS: Week 47 Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards) Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130 Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): DONE Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 15/24 Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 6/12 Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 8/12 Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 29/52 Team Gumiho Challenges: 2/3 --- 日本語 (2014年 11月 9日 - 2014年 11月 15日): Current RTK Lite Status: Lessons Done = 29 -> 31 (56) Kanji Covered = 1085 -> 1183 (2042) Active SRS Cards = 659 -> 711 (1116) (The values before the arrow are last week's values. The values in parentheses are the totals for completing RTK1 / RTK Lite.) Pimsleur: 41-50 (semi-active) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) Comments: I've changed the description of my Pimsleur pass from "passive" to the more accurate "semi-active" as I'm answering some prompts but just listening to others. After getting farther into this pass, I've come to the conclusion that if I do return for an "active" pass it likely won't be immediately after this pass as I had originally planned. I'm going to dive into other resources first. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 419 of 479 23 November 2014 at 2:20pm | IP Logged |
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한국어 (2014년 11월 16일 - 2014년 11월 22일):
Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) GOAL STATUS: Week 48 Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards) Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130 Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): DONE Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 15/24 Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 6/12 Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 8/12 Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 29/52 Team Gumiho Challenges: 2/3 --- 日本語 (2014年 11月 16日 - 2014年 11月 22日): Current RTK Lite Status: Lessons Done = 31 -> 34 (56) Kanji Covered = 1183 -> 1293 (2042) Active SRS Cards = 711 -> 774 (1116) (The values before the arrow are last week's values. The values in parentheses are the totals for completing RTK1 / RTK Lite.) Pimsleur: 51-60 (semi-active) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) Comments: I'm going through RTK a bit slower now and this is partly due to adding Korean readings here and there to characters I already know (and occasionally Japanese readings for words I've seen a lot already). Many of those Korean and Japanese readings have much stronger associations with the character than the often vague and frequently too similar keywords that Heisig uses. At the very least it clarifies which shade of meaning is implied by the keyword. Late this week or early next week, I should finally hit the point where I have more RTK cards active than I did Hanja cards in my old deck (831). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 420 of 479 30 November 2014 at 3:16pm | IP Logged |
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한국어 (2014년 11월 23일 - 2014년 11월 29일):
Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) Comments: TAC2014 is winding to a close but my Korean sits mostly idle. I'm still consuming media in Korean, I'm just not doing anything that progress toward my TAC goals lately. GOAL STATUS: Week 49 Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards) Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130 Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): DONE Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 15/24 Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 6/12 Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 8/12 Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 29/52 Team Gumiho Challenges: 2/3 --- 日本語 (2014年 11月 23日 - 2014年 11月 29日): Current RTK Lite Status: Lessons Done = 34 -> 36 (56) Kanji Covered = 1293 -> 1397 (2042) Active SRS Cards = 774 -> 816 (1116) (The values before the arrow are last week's values. The values in parentheses are the totals for completing RTK1 / RTK Lite.) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) Comments: Partly due to Thanksgiving's presence midweek, I opted to take a break from Pimsleur this week (after having just completed level 2). However, I either need to buy and download Pimsleur Japanese 3 today (the final set for Japanese) and/or commit to starting on another resource so I get back to active study again. I've got three Japanese textbooks but haven't actually started any of them yet. One of them is even Kana only (Japanese for Busy People: Kana Edition), so I don't even have the "I'm doing RTK first" excuse for not having started that one yet. The more I study Japanese, the more I'm noticing some interesting differences from Korean that I didn't expect, especially compared to how similar their grammars seemed at the start. For example, many of the Japanese particles have near direct mappings to Korean particles, however the に (ni) ending is used for a rather large number of separate meanings (mapping to multiple particles in Korean). で (de) also seems to map to multiple Korean particles, but not quite as many as に does. In other words, Japanese seems to use fewer actual endings to cover all the same functions as Korean. I'm also noticing that the の (no) possessive marker is used much more often than Korean's 의 (ui) possessive marker. In fact, its behavior reminds me more of how "de" is used in Spanish than anything that Korean or English does with possessives. Most of the times where I've seen several の endings connecting chains of nouns were places where Spanish would be using "de" for those same connections (albeit with a different word order). Even the words for boy and girl have a の stuck right in the middle (男の子 and 女の子). If you remove the の from those words and read the Chinese characters in Korean they become the familiar 남자 and 여자 (man/boy and woman/girl). Edited by Warp3 on 30 November 2014 at 3:17pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 421 of 479 30 November 2014 at 4:36pm | IP Logged |
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While I still believe in my reasons for suspending 1 year old vocabulary cards, I've just
suspended 16 more cards (from Nov 2013) and am now down to 95 total active cards in that deck (many of which are grammar cards as I don't suspend those) out of 4558 total! The newest cards in the deck are from June 2014, so unless I start adding more cards again I have about 7 months until nothing but grammar cards remain in my Korean deck. I'm almost tempted to go download a large pre-made deck and start working through it just to jumpstart my vocab learning again. I did document several new words while SE reading song lyrics this year, but few of them made it into the SRS. That said, upon browsing through my word queue file, I still remember the meanings of well over half of them anyway, so perhaps I don't need to review them after all. Of course, upon closer inspection the ones I recall the most are the ones in songs that I went on to memorize so I'm seeing them repeatedly in my Lyrics deck. (For reference, my Lyrics deck does not have definitions; it is merely a cloze deletion deck for recalling lines from a song. Thus I'm not seeing the definitions for these newly learned words, but am still interacting with them regularly.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 422 of 479 30 November 2014 at 9:02pm | IP Logged |
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I just now completed chapter 37 of RTK (and unsuspended the related RTK Lite Kanji), which
means I now have more active SRS Kanji cards (838) than I had Hanja cards previously (831). It took about 4 years to get that count of Hanja cards, but those Kanji cards have all been introduced over the course of 12 weeks. My reviews aren't all that bad either because my recall is higher and I'm also a bit more lenient in my grading methods for reviews at the moment which allows them to space out some and not overwhelm me like the Hanja deck was doing. Edited by Warp3 on 30 November 2014 at 9:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 423 of 479 07 December 2014 at 4:05pm | IP Logged |
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한국어 (2014년 11월 30일 - 2014년 12월 6일):
Suspended Korean Cards: 16 (all vocab cards from Nov 2013) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) GOAL STATUS: Week 50 Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards) Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130 Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): DONE Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 15/24 Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 6/12 Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 8/12 Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 29/52 Team Gumiho Challenges: 2/3 --- 日本語 (2014年 11月 30日 - 2014年 12月 6日): Current RTK Lite Status: Lessons Done = 36 -> 38 (56) Kanji Covered = 1397 -> 1483 (2042) Active SRS Cards = 816 -> 864 (1116) (The values before the arrow are last week's values. The values in parentheses are the totals for completing RTK1 / RTK Lite.) Pimsleur: 61-69 (semi-active) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 424 of 479 14 December 2014 at 2:50pm | IP Logged |
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한국어 (2014년 12월 7일 - 2014년 12월 13일):
Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) GOAL STATUS: Week 51 Grammar 1 (Extract grammar from SRS): DONE (65 cards) Grammar 2 (Complete Let's Speak Korean 2부): 28/130 Grammar 3 (Complete Talk To Me In Korean): DONE Grammar 4 (Complete Survival Korean): Not Started Grammar 5 (Complete SK: Basic Grammar): Not Started Grammar 6 (Review Lonely Planet Phrasebook): Not Started Grammar 7 (Review Using Korean): Not Started Vocab 1 (SE read 24 songs): 15/24 Vocab 2 (INT read 1 TTMIK 이야기/month): 6/12 Production 1 (Memorize 1 song/month): 8/12 Production 2 (Write 2 posts/week): 29/52 Team Gumiho Challenges: 2/3 Comments: I'm officially starting the final week of my TAC challenge today (week 52). Technically that is only for the "weekly" goals and the "monthly" goals will continue until December 31st, since I started my weekly goals in mid-December last year but did not start the monthly ones until January 1st, but my progress on TAC goals has pretty much stalled anyway. When paired with the multiple projects I'm juggling at work right now, I don't expect that to change before the end of the year. --- 日本語 (2014年 12月 7日 - 2014年 12月 13日): Current RTK Lite Status: Lessons Done = 38 -> 40 (56) Kanji Covered = 1483 -> 1586 (2042) Active SRS Cards = 864 -> 921 (1116) (The values before the arrow are last week's values. The values in parentheses are the totals for completing RTK1 / RTK Lite.) Pimsleur: 70-78 (semi-active) Extensive Reading: - Twitter (a few visits each week) Comments: My AKBINGO! watching has dipped a surprising amount lately as I've been watching a lot of "Gaki no Tsukai" (a comedy/variety show) instead. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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