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| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5533 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 297 of 479 03 December 2013 at 3:14am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yeah, I definitely considered that point as well.
Below is the post I made in this log back in April which describes the layout of my Hanja cards and what I require of myself to pass them when reviewing. Maybe this can give you a starting point for your own Hanja deck layout.
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4866 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 298 of 479 03 December 2013 at 11:20am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I was surprised to see that 사진 uses the same characters as 진정 and 진심!
Would you consider sharing your Hanja deck? I think the information you've put on them is very useful and I'd like to learn more of the syllable meanings (although I don't think I'll be able to remember the characters themselves). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5533 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 299 of 479 04 December 2013 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Here is a link to my current 800-card Hanja deck (exported to apkg format without scheduling data). https://dl.dropboxu sercontent.com/u/24851454/hanja.apkg NOTE: Some of the first cards I added were done before I got AGTKC so those contain less content in general, including fewer examples. Those are also some of the most common Hanja, though, which is why I started with them. Edited by Warp3 on 08 December 2013 at 4:31pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5533 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 300 of 479 08 December 2013 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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한국어 (2013년 12월 1일 - 2013년 12월 7일):
New Hanja Cards: 5 (Total = 800) Extensive Reading: - 와라!편의점 (read daily) - Twitter (a few visits each week) I did test my reading speed using 와라!편의점 as a reference point for how long I'm spending with Anki. The times varied a good bit per day, but the shortest was 3.5 min and the longest nearly 6 min. The average (of 6 days) was just under 4.5 minutes, though. --- español (1/12/2013 - 7/12/2013): Michel Thomas Total Spanish: - Foundation Course: Tracks 43-83 (out of 83 tracks total) - Vocabulary Builder: Tracks 1-28 (out of 28 tracks total) Bilingual reading: - Foxtrot en español (read daily) - Dilbert en español (read daily) - Calvin and Hobbes en español (read daily) (NOTE: I stopped listing "XKCD en español" here as it hasn't updated even once since I first listed it. I may go back and read the older comics there at some point, though.) I finished the Michel Thomas Total Spanish course this week and I'm rather confused by one aspect of the included vocabulary builder lessons. The teacher keeps referencing back to things that you should "remember from Michel Thomas's course" yet she states this about things like the simple past tense that were not taught in the included 7-disc course. Was the vocab builder perhaps designed to follow the old Advanced course instead, not the old Foundation course, or did they perhaps revamp the Foundation course and remove the simple past in the "Total Spanish" version? He teaches the past perfect (i.e., have done) and the past progressive (i.e., was doing), but never the simple past (i.e., did). Edited by Warp3 on 08 December 2013 at 4:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5533 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 301 of 479 09 December 2013 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Two updates:
Yesterday evening, I went into my normal routine of adding 5 new cards to the Hanja deck. I know I said I would plan to slack off for a bit after hitting 800 cards, but it almost seems like a ritual now and it seems to stay tolerable as long as I stay at about 5 or so cards per week maximum. However, I actually added 6 cards instead. Why? Because that was the number required to complete the remaining characters from the "8 stroke" section of the book! This morning, I decided to suspend all cards in the "Korean" deck that were over 1-year- old (created Dec 9, 2012 or earlier) to see how my review counts would change. Afterward, the review count for today went from 68 to 4! As such, I've decided to leave them suspended for now. My current "active" deck is now 220 cards (out of 4506) with the oldest cards created on 12/12/2012. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4866 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 302 of 479 09 December 2013 at 2:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Sounds like you made a very good decision! I can't imagine reviewing the same cards for years and years... Either you know them at some point or you won't learn them by simple repetition, I guess. And if they're very old I can't imagine they'll slip your memory so easily anyway.
I just saw that I totally forgot to give you some feedback on the deck! Thanks for considering to share it! Unfortunately I couldn't open it... might be a mac problem... EDIT: Are you considering TAC 2014? Looks like there will be a Korean team this time! Edited by druckfehler on 09 December 2013 at 2:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5533 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 303 of 479 09 December 2013 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's kind of how I looked at it when I finally decided to try it. Any fact I haven't learned after a year of reviewing is perhaps I fact I don't really need all that much after all (otherwise I'd have seen it elsewhere enough to remember it more easily).
Odd. Just in case your browser is choking on the unexpected file extension (APKG) try this link (the same file as before but inside a ZIP file this time): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24851454/hanja.zip
I've thought about it. TAC 2012 did seem to be pretty effective at inducing consistent progress (based on my Anki numbers, at least). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5533 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 304 of 479 14 December 2013 at 11:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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General TAC 2014 Goals
More specific goals (in the form of quantifiable targets, where possible) are forthcoming, but here are my overall general goals for TAC 2014. Korean: 1) Spend more time actively studying Korean grammar forms, idioms, etc. rather than focusing so much on vocabulary. 2) Continue to increase Korean vocabulary, but not via direct studying (mostly likely via a return to intensively reading and memorizing song lyrics) 3) Work more on Korean production (both writing and speaking) Spanish: 1) Find my first real "hook" for Spanish. Korean originally hooked me with music then later hooked me via other routes (like variety TV) as well. As such, even when I'm not learning Korean actively, I'm still getting constantly exposed to it. I need to find my first deeply imbedded "hook" for Spanish to keep the language ever-present, even when I'm too busy or uninterested to actively study it. I've tried to make music a hook for Spanish as well, but I'm not sure how well that is working yet. 2) Complete my review pass of Pimsleur Spanish 1-3 and continue on through Pimsleur Spanish 4. 3) Restart and finally complete Assimil Spanish with Ease (even if I have to drop the SRS part to make sure I keep going this time). 4) Start active use of Spanish fairly early in the challenge period. Edited by Warp3 on 15 December 2013 at 12:14am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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