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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 1377 of 1511
18 March 2015 at 12:05pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
A couple things: I did not mean communist. I meant communal, which I
say because in
China
things are often done together and shared. There is a communal feeling about the way
the
Chinese live because of how often things are meant to be done in unison. This hasn't
got
anything to do with communist politics.

Trommetåren - I meant trommetårnet. The thing is that it's a drum tower and those guys
hit hard! I probably made a typo of some egregious sort.

I am aware my written production still rests heavily on my Swedish, but as you know my
Swedish is even better than my Norwegian. I would describe my Norwegian as basic
fluency,
which was the goal.

Thanks for the corrections, I will update my blog when I have the time to do so :)


I know you did not mean to write communist - otherwise I would just have corrected it.
The thing is that the word "kommunal" in Norwegian is strictly linked to an
geographical-adminstrative unit - a kommune - and is not a synonym to communal. And
from a Norwegian perspective the way they organize their lives in China has everything
to do with Communism. So we would still probably use kommunistisk even if that was not
what you had in mind.

And yes :-) Obviously your Norwegian will be influenced by your Swedish, just like if
I ever get to do any serious Ukrainian studies, it will obviously be heavily
influenced by my Russian :-)
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tarvos
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 Message 1378 of 1511
18 March 2015 at 12:08pm | IP Logged 
There must be a better word for that - kommunistisk isn't the vibe I want. Perhaps
something with "dele"?

The other problem is that when I speak Norwegian my accent is all over the place - I
worked on my pronunciation specifically, so the most egregious swedicisms are out (but
you will still notice the heavily Swedified intonation) and the other part is that my
accent doesn't resemble the Oslo one - my teacher is from Alesund and therefore I tend
to say things like ikkje, kva, and so on. (Not to mention that I actually want to
learn Nynorsk, but it has no spellchecker on google chrome - urgh). The flipside to
this entire story is that people think I'm a dumb Swede when in Norway, so I never get
responded to in English. I exclusively get Norwegian responses. They can't tell I'm
Dutch :p (A Swede could tell I am off when speaking Swedish, of course. But that
deviation is also not very noticeable, though existent. In Swedeh I don't have
problems with English responses either).

Edited by tarvos on 18 March 2015 at 12:14pm

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tarvos
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 Message 1379 of 1511
19 March 2015 at 1:56am | IP Logged 
A Song of Ice and Fire

A short review of the doorstopper series by George R. R. Martin, which I have mostly read
in English but also partly in Swedish and German.

In English, for a change (because it's the original and the language I read most of the
books in). Be happy I threw you lot a bone so you can read my blog entry!

Besides I've changed a bit of the blog anyway, pinned a different article on the top,
marked a few blogs, and added "read more" tags to everything :)
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 Message 1380 of 1511
20 March 2015 at 1:22am | IP Logged 
News on the Language Front

Because I can never sit still without learning a new language (I need the thrill),
I've decided to start Italian for a bit and dabble with it - see how far I get. I
actually have plans to visit at least Italian-speaking Switzerland over the summer for
a few days, but it may be a necessary move for later - as you all know after China and
my one-month summer holiday time which I will spend in Western Europe to see my
friends and family on that part of the continent, I am going to Greece, but
considering the economy is down the drain there it may be hard to work as an English
teacher in Greece (although this would be my first choice). However I was informed
that Spain and Italy were other options. I already have a bit of Spanish but I don't
have much Italian if at all, so I need to rectify the Italian bit (and become a
Romance language completist given that I speak French and Romanian fluently already
and have basic Spanish and Portuguese).

So tonight will be my first Italian lesson. Actually I will focus on the more formal
grammar because reading comprehension is easy.
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 Message 1381 of 1511
20 March 2015 at 12:04pm | IP Logged 
In bocca al lupo, tarvos! I think you'll enjoy Italian. It's a very pleasant language IMHO.
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 Message 1382 of 1511
20 March 2015 at 12:13pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
There must be a better word for that - kommunistisk isn't the vibe I want. Perhaps
something with "dele"?

The other problem is that when I speak Norwegian my accent is all over the place - I
worked on my pronunciation specifically, so the most egregious swedicisms are out (but
you will still notice the heavily Swedified intonation) and the other part is that my
accent doesn't resemble the Oslo one - my teacher is from Alesund and therefore I tend
to say things like ikkje, kva, and so on. (Not to mention that I actually want to
learn Nynorsk, but it has no spellchecker on google chrome - urgh). The flipside to
this entire story is that people think I'm a dumb Swede when in Norway, so I never get
responded to in English. I exclusively get Norwegian responses. They can't tell I'm
Dutch :p (A Swede could tell I am off when speaking Swedish, of course. But that
deviation is also not very noticeable, though existent. In Swedeh I don't have
problems with English responses either).


About "kommunistisk" and "kommunal", Solfrid Cristina is right, and I think a word you might use to convey your meaning is "kollektiv". In Norwegian this word can be used as a noun or an adjective, with the basic underlying meaning of sharing. So we talk about "kollektivtransport" - public transport, for example. As a substantive, "et kollektiv" indicates a group of people living together sharing all basic stuff such as food, furniture etc. It was a popular concept back in the 70s when there was a strong radical movement among young people, and Marx and Lenin were very much in vogue. But as indicated from my transport example, it is not a word that necessarily imply a communist ideology, simply the idea of something that is shared.
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 Message 1383 of 1511
20 March 2015 at 5:13pm | IP Logged 
Tusen takk, det klarer opp noe saker, Ogrim.

Det er ikke et spørsmål om at Cristina tar fel. Det er kun slik at jeg hadde en annen
mening i hodet enn hva hun trodde. Jeg skal alltid referere til norskmenn hvis det er
snakk om talspråklige sak og ting.

Apart from this, my Italian class was a success and I succeeded in speaking relatively
normal Italian, with the exception that I occasionally missed a word and that my grammar
is horrible (and my vocabulary is horribly reliant on imports if I don't know the proper
Italian, but usually this gets the point across if I use some form of Espaliano or if I
use a Romanian/French/Portuguese word that I pronounce in an Italian manner.)

Edited by tarvos on 21 March 2015 at 9:00am

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 Message 1384 of 1511
20 March 2015 at 8:04pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:

[...]and the other part is that my accent doesn't resemble the Oslo one - my teacher is
from Alesund and therefore I tend to say things like ikkje, kva, and so on. (Not to mention
that I actually want to learn Nynorsk, but it has no spellchecker on google chrome - urgh).


Ålesund is great :) The majority of Norwegians don't speak with an Oslo accent, so I think
you should be fine.
It's annoying that Chrome doesn't include a nynorsk spellchecker, but there is actually one
available for LibreOffice, you can write your texts there.


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