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Марк
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 Message 161 of 1511
15 June 2012 at 6:39pm | IP Logged 
значить, знак - однокоренные со "знать"?
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tarvos
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 Message 162 of 1511
15 June 2012 at 8:35pm | IP Logged 
вы так не думаете?
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 Message 163 of 1511
16 June 2012 at 2:41am | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
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So here it goes: MOST LANGUAGES ARE EASY!

In fact, I think Russian is REALLY EASY! (In fact, there are many things I hate about French which are entirely illogical and I never understood why they do it that way).

Hold your horses, you shout. What about the ... everything?

Bollocks. It's easy, 99% of it is perfectly logical. It's just not English logic,
...


That's why I grew a bit weary of endless discussions about language learning here... sure, I've learned quite a few things at a theoretical level, especially about exotic features of languages I'm not interested in, and all that jazz, but ultimately, once your grasp of how the whole thing works is good enough (which unfortunately can take very variable amounts of time) it's more a matter of getting to grips with it.

I mean, and I don't want to offend anyone --which is what people always say when they're precisely about to offend others--, RETARDS with obviously limited mental ability do better in their own language than many language students. Since we'll suppose brains aren't the problem it should be fairly obvious that either they're doing it too little or they're doing it wrong, not that it's really too difficult. But how many people have you met that acknowledge this, if only to themselves?

That said, sure, there are things more logical than others --sometimes they only seem more logical because they're more similar to your native counterparts--, but there are so many of these that I don't think it's easy to escalate that meaningfully to statements like 'language A is easier/more logical than B' as entities considered in full. Anyway, how logically any language features work is just a tiny problem compared to the fact that the bulk of any language is purely memory association between words and meanings; otherwise Esperanto would have wiped anything else -- it's extremely simple, logical and easy and yet mostly a failure -- why? because it's a very good solution... for the lesser problem. Same can be said about any language feature that's perceived as 'far superior' to its alternates. 'Far inferior' solutions either fell into disuse long ago or will do pretty soon.

Sorry for digressing on your log when I basically wanted to agree with you: languages ARE easy. Now... がんばっていきまっしょい ;)
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Марк
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 Message 164 of 1511
16 June 2012 at 8:32am | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
вы так не думаете?

Я в этом не уверен.

Edited by Марк on 16 June 2012 at 1:59pm

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 Message 165 of 1511
16 June 2012 at 10:14am | IP Logged 
You're allowed to translate the Japanese, mrwarper, as my memory associations have not
picked up any Japanese yet.
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mrwarper
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 Message 166 of 1511
16 June 2012 at 11:13am | IP Logged 
Oh it's just "ganbatte ikkimasshoi" which roughly translates to 'let's give our best'. For whatever the reason when I Googled it up yesterday 99% of the hits were in Russian so I thought you'd get the same and it'd be fun but I can't reproduce it today, maybe I misspelled something.

Edited by mrwarper on 16 June 2012 at 2:17pm

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 Message 167 of 1511
21 June 2012 at 12:05pm | IP Logged 
I am sorry for not having written much here. I've been going through another little bit
of emotional turmoil, but I've managed to continue my Russian Active Wave every day and
done some French reading .
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 Message 168 of 1511
21 June 2012 at 6:11pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
I am sorry for not having written much here. I've been going through another little bit
of emotional turmoil, but I've managed to continue my Russian Active Wave every day and
done some French reading .

I hope things will get better for you soon! :)


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