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Марк
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 Message 545 of 1511
06 March 2013 at 8:33am | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:


РУ: Ничего не сделал с русским языком.

Слава Богу!
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tarvos
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 Message 546 of 1511
06 March 2013 at 9:12am | IP Logged 
Я в него не верю. Что вы имели ввиду?

Edited by tarvos on 06 March 2013 at 11:32am

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Josquin
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 Message 547 of 1511
10 March 2013 at 1:21pm | IP Logged 
I think Mark wanted to say something along the lines "Thank God you didn't do any Russian". If there ever was a post that would have deserved a negative "useful" vote, this one would have been it.

Anywho, how are things? Still polyglotting around or busy with graduating? By the way, how did you go about studying Russian after completing your textbooks? Do you simply chat a lot with native speakers or how do you work on your vocabulary?

Thanks to Colloquial Russian, I know "one-way syringe", "free economic zone", and "nature protection", but I sometimes lack the most elementary words such as "to fall", "to hold", or "to hang". That's a bit insatisfactory, to put it mildly, so I thought about making wordlists with very common words. What did you do?
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Марк
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 Message 548 of 1511
10 March 2013 at 3:17pm | IP Logged 
Josquin wrote:


Thanks to Colloquial Russian, I know "one-way syringe", "free economic zone", and "nature
protection", but I sometimes lack the most elementary words such as "to fall", "to hold",
or "to hang". That's a bit insatisfactory, to put it mildly, so I thought about making
wordlists with very common words. What did you do?

Colloquial Russian has an appropriate name. The words you mentioned are not trivial from
the morphological and lexical points of view.
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tarvos
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 Message 549 of 1511
10 March 2013 at 3:56pm | IP Logged 
Josquin wrote:

Anywho, how are things? Still polyglotting around or busy with graduating? By the way,
how did you go about studying Russian after completing your textbooks? Do you simply
chat a lot with native speakers or how do you work on your vocabulary?


I am polyglotting and graduating, yes. I don't consider what I do "studying" as much as
"randomly talking to native speakers". I have taken some private tutoring classes
concerning Russian and I pretty much use those to get practice speaking and
understanding in. I already knew my teacher because she also teaches me Swedish so I
take classes more or less simultaneously. I don't have a failsafe way of knowing
vocabulary - I don't make wordlists or anything - but my teacher provides me with some
translations to make me remember vocabulary from previous lessons (which can be very
colloquial language, actually). But I have a good enough base in Russian that I don't
need to use it every day for me to be able to get around in it. I recently went to a
Russian shop and I was perfectly able to communicate with the shopkeeper, also about
more complex things such as privatising companies. (Hence why I have it as basic
fluency in my list).

My other languages have been stalling here and there. I have been feeling sick
occasionally and I am graduating. I plan to do some Breton later today though, and
maybe some Romanian or Hebrew tonight.

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Thanks to Colloquial Russian, I know "one-way syringe", "free economic zone",
and "nature protection", but I sometimes lack the most elementary words such as "to
fall", "to hold", or "to hang". That's a bit insatisfactory, to put it mildly, so I
thought about making wordlists with very common words. What did you do?


To fall and to hold are words you can find in Assimil, so I have those. I forgot "to
hang". But protection is quite a useful word, I use that quite a bit. Disposable is
also useful if you want to go hiking f.e. and if you're going to a hospital (which can
happen in an emergency). Free economic zone I don't care about, but that one is kind of
easy to "approximate".
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Марк
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 Message 550 of 1511
10 March 2013 at 5:46pm | IP Logged 
Josquin wrote:
I think Mark wanted to say something along the lines "Thank God you
didn't do any Russian". If there ever was a post that would have deserved a negative
"useful" vote, this one would have been it.

I don't think so.
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Josquin
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 Message 551 of 1511
10 March 2013 at 5:49pm | IP Logged 
Thanks, it seems you have a lot more active practice in Russian than I do. I have started listening to podcasts in order to get more exposure to spoken language and to get away from texts a bit. Hopefully, I can learn some common vocabulary that way.

@Mark: I don't get your point. Colloquial Russian does teach morphologically and lexically complex verbs, otherwise the only verbs I knew would be читать and работать. Often the most common verbs are irregular, that's right, but that doesn't change the fact that they are very useful to know.

EDIT:
Марк wrote:
I don't think so.

Making grammatical mistakes doesn't make people bad persons.

Edited by Josquin on 10 March 2013 at 5:53pm

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tarvos
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 Message 552 of 1511
10 March 2013 at 6:01pm | IP Logged 
He has a completely different view on language learning than I do. I'm not a linguist so
I don't care about making a grammar mistake or two. What matters is getting my point
across in a nice and accurate way and if people want to rag on me for that it's their
problem. Luckily there are other people who are more accepting of my view and are more
than happy to listen to me bumble along in Russian and appreciate what I do.


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