Register  Login  Active Topics  Maps  

Iversen’s Multiconfused Log (see p.1!)

  Tags: Multilingual
 Language Learning Forum : Language Learning Log Post Reply
3959 messages over 495 pages: << Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... 149 ... 494 495 Next >>
Sprachprofi
Nonaglot
Senior Member
Germany
learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 4602 days ago

2608 posts - 4866 votes 
Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian
Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese

 
 Message 1185 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 10:56am | IP Logged 
Vi estas en Germanio, do ĉu vi pripensis ankaŭ iri al eventoj kiuj estas pli proksimaj? Ekzemple mi ĵus iris al la IJK en Liberec, apud la pola/ĉeĥa/germana triangulo. Kaj je la jarfino mi eble iros al la JES, kiu okazos en Zakopane, Polando, aŭ la NR en Saarbrücken.

Cetere, se vi deziras vere malfacilan sed amuzan ekzercon pri aŭdkompreno, rigardu la filmojn de la Berlina Komedia Nokto, kiun Chuck kaj mi starigis antaŭ kelkaj tagoj: Berlina Komedia Nokto. Profesoro Duncan Charters kaj 'vortarulo' André Müller ambaŭ bonege imitas fremdajn akĉentojn en Esperanto. Ridigegege!

Edited by Sprachprofi on 06 August 2009 at 10:59am

1 person has voted this message useful





Fasulye
Heptaglot
Winner TAC 2012
Moderator
Germany
fasulyespolyglotblog
Joined 3979 days ago

5444 posts - 6003 votes 
1 sounds
Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto
Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish
Personal Language Map

 
 Message 1186 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 11:44am | IP Logged 
Sprachprofi wrote:
Vi estas en Germanio, do ĉu vi pripensis ankaŭ iri al eventoj kiuj estas pli proksimaj? Ekzemple mi ĵus iris al la IJK en Liberec, apud la pola/ĉeĥa/germana triangulo. Kaj je la jarfino mi eble iros al la JES, kiu okazos en Zakopane, Polando, aŭ la NR en Saarbrücken.

Cetere, se vi deziras vere malfacilan sed amuzan ekzercon pri aŭdkompreno, rigardu la filmojn de la Berlina Komedia Nokto, kiun Chuck kaj mi starigis antaŭ kelkaj tagoj: Berlina Komedia Nokto. Profesoro Duncan Charters kaj 'vortarulo' André Müller ambaŭ bonege imitas fremdajn akĉentojn en Esperanto. Ridigegege!


ESP: Jes, mi iomete auxskultis la videon. La du komidiantoj havas malklaran kaj malbonan pronuncon. Mi dubas, cxu Iversen tion bone povas kompreni. Mia Esperanto-grupo intencas pagi al mi partoprenadon al Universala Kongreso. Ili estas maljunuloj kaj tien volonte irus, sed pro cirkonstancoj ili mem ne povas. Ili volas ebligi min fari ion, kion ili mem sxatis fari, kiam ili estis pli junaj.

LASTAN JARON (EDIT) okazis (FAND STATT) Internacia Festivalo en Düsseldorf fine de decembro, sed mi devis plene labori, do mi ne ricevis liberajn tagojn por iri tien.

Fasulye

Edited by Fasulye on 06 August 2009 at 3:54pm

1 person has voted this message useful





Iversen
Super Polyglot
Moderator
Denmark
berejst.dk
Joined 4835 days ago

9078 posts - 16470 votes 
Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan
Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian
Personal Language Map

 
 Message 1187 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 1:32pm | IP Logged 
Fasulye wrote:
.....mi devis plene labori, do mi ne ricevis liberajn tagojn por iri tien.


Labori? Ti havas novan laboron? Tiame ti ne havas multe tempon per lerni Danan, mi supozas.

Mi provis aŭskulti la du amatoraj aktoroj de Berlino. Mi povis kompreni iujn vortojn, sed ne signifon. Tio ne estas neatendita, ĉar mi havas aŭditan preskaŭ neniun Esperanton - povas esti duonan horon antaŭ kelkaj monatoj. Sed ankaŭ mi povas aŭdi iujn problemojn en la prononco de la du aktoroj: "me vuoles vokuum!" "U senjoro, ja honorata gasto, a petos trehuminninE a dehavinninE ...". Mi simple ne komprenas ĉi tiujn finan du vortojn, kaj ne komprenas kial nombro 1 volas drinki vakuon.. Poste mi komprenis ke ili parolis pri la vera Rusa vodko, sed apenaŭ pli. Eble ili havis tro Rusan vodkon jam. Skribita Esperanto estas multe pli facila.

-----

Fasulye and Sprachprofi are discussing Esperanto meetings, and in the course of this discussion Sprachprofi mentions a bad case of amateur theater in Esperanto in Berlin and Fasulye doubts that I can understand it. The doubt is well founded, both because I all in all have spent less than half an hour listening to Esperanto on the internet (several months ago) and because the two actors aren't speaking the kind of Esperanto I have been reading. For instance I have tried to listen to the passage quoted above at least ten times, and I still can't figure out what the "vocuum" is that no. 1 is ordering. And the answer is even more incomprehensible for a newbie like me. Vocuum seems to be an orange fluid with or without alcohol (which could be the Russian vodka that is discussed a little bit later). To cleanse my ears I also tried to listen to some other clips at youtube. In one clip from a conference in Le Mans (France) everybody spoke French. In another a lot of people were talking in the same time, and in a third people were singing. Finally in the fourth clip an elderly gentleman ran around on the scene while speaking Esperanto. But when he settled down and began to speak slowly and deliberately about rethorics then I could almost follow him.

And the big news of today is of course that our Administrator has returned. And not only didn't he pull the plug as we had feared, but it actually seems that he is going to repair the errors that have hit the profile module. The message is that we have got too many profiles. One solution to that would be to delete all profiles that haven't been used since they were created or belong to people who haven't written anything and haven't visited the forum for ages. But let's see what happens.


Edited by Iversen on 21 December 2011 at 1:11pm

1 person has voted this message useful



Sprachprofi
Nonaglot
Senior Member
Germany
learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 4602 days ago

2608 posts - 4866 votes 
Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian
Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese

 
 Message 1188 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 2:53pm | IP Logged 
It's not bad - the two are speaking Esperanto with awful accents on purpose. They are switching accents often, showcasing the worst that various nationalities can do to nia kara lingvo, short of actually making grammar mistakes.

In "La Misvojo" they were speaking Esperanto-influenced English or German at the beginning and then recited a famous poem; scrambled poetic words are hard to recognize so I don't blame you for not understanding much. You could probably still use the sketch for practise understanding the influence various languages have on Esperanto, but you should read the poem here at the same time as listening. The accents in that sketch, in order: British, Russian, French, Japanese, Spanish, Dutch (or maybe Saxonian German dialect?), American, German.

Good Esperanto speakers should be able to understand them in the sketch "La Restoracio" though, at least when the volume isn't too low (despite the volume I can still understand 100% of the words). Practise with that sketch and you'll be prepared for the worst speakers you can find at an international Esperanto meeting. The situations were: 1) Russian in a Japanese restaurant; 2) German in an Italian restaurant; 3) French in a British restaurant; 4) Danish and Argentinian in a train to the Universala Kongreso in Bialystok.

This whole comedy night was an idea Chuck and I had just one week before it would take place, so I accept responsibility for props missing (vodka, beer, wine all being represented by multivitamin juice) and the comedians not being well-prepared. Since neither of them live in Berlin they only had 10 hours together before the sketch. However, we figured it would be too good of an opportunity to miss to get the two accent magicians to do a sketch together, considering Professor Duncan Charters lives in the USA and is in Europe very rarely.

Edited by Sprachprofi on 06 August 2009 at 3:13pm

1 person has voted this message useful



Sprachprofi
Nonaglot
Senior Member
Germany
learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 4602 days ago

2608 posts - 4866 votes 
Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian
Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese

 
 Message 1189 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 3:12pm | IP Logged 
To re-calibrate your Esperanto accent, you could watch some videos on Dotsub in Esperanto with Esperanto or English subtitles.

For example this report about this year's Internacia Junulara Kongreso, a report about Burning Man or various parts of the "Esperanto estas" documentary. I have personally looked at them to make sure the accent is worth imitating.
1 person has voted this message useful





Iversen
Super Polyglot
Moderator
Denmark
berejst.dk
Joined 4835 days ago

9078 posts - 16470 votes 
Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan
Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian
Personal Language Map

 
 Message 1190 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 3:14pm | IP Logged 
And what is 'vocuum' then?
1 person has voted this message useful



Sprachprofi
Nonaglot
Senior Member
Germany
learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 4602 days ago

2608 posts - 4866 votes 
Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian
Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese

 
 Message 1191 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 3:17pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
And what is 'vocuum' then?

I believe you mean 'vodkon' - in the first sentence of the actual sketch? Keep in mind C is pronounced /ts/ in Esperanto.

The Japanese waiter then says to the barman "Sinjoro, nia honorata gasto petas tre humile eble havi iun trinkaĵon, prefere kun alkoholo, ekzemple la bonan rusan vodkon".

Edited by Sprachprofi on 06 August 2009 at 3:20pm

1 person has voted this message useful





Iversen
Super Polyglot
Moderator
Denmark
berejst.dk
Joined 4835 days ago

9078 posts - 16470 votes 
Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan
Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian
Personal Language Map

 
 Message 1192 of 3959
06 August 2009 at 3:20pm | IP Logged 
Maybe my ears need recalibrating..


1 person has voted this message useful



This discussion contains 3959 messages over 495 pages: << Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495  Next >>


Post ReplyPost New Topic Printable version Printable version

You cannot post new topics in this forum - You cannot reply to topics in this forum - You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum - You cannot create polls in this forum - You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page was generated in 0.7344 seconds.


DHTML Menu By Milonic JavaScript
Copyright 2019 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved
No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization.